High I.Q. = vegetarian?

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I am a plant lover. I think people should only eat meat.

I've been a vegetarian for almost 9 years. Last year I was a vegan for just under a year.

I try my best to avoid eggs and such in things like cakes and sandwiches (mayonaise).

How about the part where all us hi-Q types also tend to exercise more? I'm a veg couch-potato.

I'm vegetarian.

And I'm vegetarian because I will NOT eat a murdered creature. Think about it, that poor creature had feelings too, it had a family, it lived a life, and it was most likely enjoying itself. Now it is dead because someone felt a little hungry. Put yourself in the position of that poor creature. Would YOU like to be killed and eaten by someone?

The only time I ate vegetables was when I was 0-3 yrs old and I am the most intelligent in my class

I'm a vegetarian for a few reasons. a) I love animals (a lot more than people) and don't want to kill and eat them. b) I don't particularly like a lot of meat anyway, particularly red meat (although poultry wasn't too bad when I used to eat it). c) Health reasons - many farmed animals are so unhealthy nowadays from their poor diets and living conditions and the antibiotics they're routinely pumped full of that you never know what kind of rubbish you're putting into yourself in turn if you eat them.

(My IQ is somewhere between 120-130.)

I love meat, and I will eat it any chance I get.

I also eat more vegetables than some people I know (eg, a few people at work whose diets appear to be entirely based on grain products). My typical lunch at work is a home-made "chef's salad" with romaine lettuce, tomatoes, red or green pepper, chicken or turkey, a chopped-up hard-boiled egg, some cheddar cheese, and sometimes radishes or green onion or whatever I have on hand. I once had someone look at it and make a comment that she should eat more vegetables...

What I need to stay away from is anything grain-based. If I eat lots of carbs, I gain weight. If I keep them to a minimum (ie, what I get from vegetables), I lose weight.

(I also must avoid soy at all costs because of an allergy.)

BTW, officially tested IQ score is 132. Not that I put much stock in IQ scores.

We are animals that eat meat - if you want me to ill go out and strangle the cow to eat it - it is the cycle of life and think about it if we did not eat them how many would they be today? Ye know some have been eaten to none existent but I am a meat eating animal and that is life.... Let’s go out and kill all meat eaten animals they have no right to murder the animals

By the way the meat is stamped with a stamp to show it's past the test so don't know why you would think what your eating, unless you don't cook it properly - or some fool tried to get cheaper meat...

Good if you want to be a veg or pure veg just tell me what we are going to do with the animal's when they population gets too big...

No point changing a diet unless your body is designed for that diet - we are missing a bacteria organ to be on a pure veg meal so you need high vit mixed products...

Most product's today are checked back to make sure the animal's are not been pumped with stuff and are on a natural grass diet.. so on .... And allot of animals are pumped with anti biotics if we didn't they would be dead anyway... Not just eaten animal's that get this...

I dont know about the UK and America, but here in Canada, and I suspect america, its all free range beef anyway.

They put them to pasture and let them crop green grasses all summer and fall, and in winter, they shelter them when its extremely cold, and at other times, they are free to come and go from the shelter as they please. In winter they are fed supplementary dried hay(grass with seed).

Chickens, on the other hand, are caged and mechanically fed. Their lives are very short though, and are humanely electrocuted as soon as they reach a certain size/weight.

Egg layers are an exception, and are hormonally encouraged to be prolific egg layers. When their production falls, they too are slaughtered, but are not served as fresh meat; they are tough stringy and dry by that point, and their meat is what you find in the canned soups and whatnot.

Anything that isnt package presentable is rendered down to lard and/or made into broth powder.

Likewise with the milk producing cows. If you want tender beef, you get it from a young cow, not an old one.

The industrialized milking process is interesting, as it is initiated by the cow. They enter the milking station when their utters are full, much like a full bladder, and automated machinery washes and hooks up the milking machine.

Regardless of propaganda, the animals are treated carefully and gently, as stress/injury negatively impacts the quality and therefore, profit margin of the products.

They dont raise Veal and whatnot around here... So I cannot speak on that.

I wont eat anything that 'casts a shadow'

Then why you eating a plant

I find this a hilarious sort of survey. Only one person has posted their IQ to try to disprove the original poster's theory. First of all over half the people on here have probably never had an IQ test (except over the internet which isn't accurate). It should be noted the average Western IQ is now considered to be around 120.

I eat plenty of meat and dairy and some vegetables. My IQ at 11 yrs old was 165 and believe me my mom served us meat 3 meals a day. I briefly became ova-lacto-vegetarian at age 19 for almost 3 years. I started having tons of medical problems including muscle wasting. It concerned me how so much of vegetarian food is fake foods. Its all chemicals and couldn't be healthy. But you say vegetarians should be eating vegetables. That is correct by definition. But the ones I observe such as friends and co-workers eat lots of crap. They eat out a lot (because they're collge kids) and mostly all they can get is a salad and french fries. Most salads consist mainly of iceberg lettuce which has almost no nutritional value. They also eat a lot of pasta and breads which are said to be one of the worst things humans can eat. No wonder all of the vegans I know have black circles under their eyes. They are malnourished.

For the person who posted about soy making them feel bad. You're likely making an accurate observation. A lot of people are allergic to Soy. Besides that Soy is an endocrine disrupter and is part of the reason many males are very feminized these days. Have you noticed a lot of guy vegetarians these days are very girly with large breasts (even on the skinny guys), little body hair and a high voice? They also have low sperm counts. There is also studies that indicate male children of female vegetarians have a higher incidence of being born with hypospadias and its thought that is caused by the higher consumption of estrogen in the mother's diet.

I do care for the feelings of animals, but I also think vegetables feel something akin to pain when they are pulled out of the ground or ripped from the vine. But both animals and plants get eaten by other animals so its just part of the circle of life. If we were meant to be vegetarians then we humans would not have been born with teeth shaped to rip flesh like other carnivores. We would also have not been born with enzymes and bacteria in the gut that digest meat, but would instead have digestive abilities identical to plant eating apes.

Not animals reared for organic meat. One of the 'terms and conditions' of the organic certificate is that they can't be routinely overloaded with ABs, only treated with the essentials if they become genuinely ill - which in an organic farm animal, happens far less frequently anyway, of course.

If all meat was produced organically, I possibly wouldn't mind it quite so much. Still don't care much for the taste itself, though.

http://www.soilassociation.org/web/sa/s ... enDocument


Probably why foot and mouth spread so far... missed out Been sarcastic

Should point this out too but still good in ways lol

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Do all organic certifiers have the same animal welfare standards?

No. All organic certification bodies have to meet the minimum requirement but some bodies, like the Soil Association exceed the minimum in a number of areas. The Soil Association’s livestock standards are very detailed and run to over 80 pages compared to the basic UK standards which comprise of about four. The castration of pigs, for example, is not allowed under the Soil Association standards, whereas the EU and basic UK standards do permit this practice.
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* Want a stamp with Soil Associations livestock on *

Last edited by logitechdog on 26 Dec 2006, 4:46 pm, edited 3 times in total.

Logitechdog, thanks for the link!

Here's the part of the document dealing with the organic restrictions on antibiotic use for anyone interested:

"Through a positive management approach to health and welfare, farmers always aim to prevent disease from occurring on the farm. However, if a disease did occur then organic farmers are encouraged to use natural and complementary therapies. But if these are not appropriate then conventional medicines, including antibiotics, must be used. The important thing is that the welfare of the animal is paramount: in other words, if an animal is sick it must be treated. However the routine or preventative use of antibiotics is prohibited. This is because routine drug use weakens an animal’s immune system and so increases the reliance on drugs. When any animal is given antibiotics, its meat or milk cannot be sold for human consumption for a specified period – the 'withdrawal period'. If an organic animal is given antibiotics then the withdrawal period has to be at least doubled and often tripled before the meat or milk can be sold as organic.

I remember reading about one organic beef farmer who used herbal remedies and massage therapy if a cow of his became ill.

You're telling us a farmer massages his cows? Gee do they get aromatherapy and accupuncture too? What kind of massage table do they have for cows?