Post-assessment thoughts (finally got the result today).
(I feel like I'm writing the same things over and over but this is really relevant to me. I'll keep writing here for now instead of starting new threads. At least when it comes to this subject.)
I wonder if obsessing over the results is proof of diagnosis


Not to change the subject but I find it extremely interesting, fascinating and odd that:
1. Some WP folks (myself included) get professionally diagnosed, yet still express doubt/skepticism with the formal diagnosis
while
2. Other WP folks have the confidence to self-diagnose (without any doubt/skepticism)
I wonder if this (doubt/skepticism) permeates the lives of the former, but not the latter.
Take your time. You might want to consider writing your thoughts in a journal. I found this quite helpful.
I believe that a lack of very strict, completely empirical diagnostic criteria, and the universal human tendency toward confirmation bias, can explain 1 and 2, respectively.
(Please note that I am not saying there aren't diagnostic criteria - we most certainly have criteria - but it's full of enough gray area and complexity to make it a point of contention sometimes, and thus not the same thing as, say, diagnosing that one has high cholesterol.)
1. Some WP folks (myself included) get professionally diagnosed, yet still express doubt/skepticism with the formal diagnosis
while
2. Other WP folks have the confidence to self-diagnose (without any doubt/skepticism)
I wonder if this (doubt/skepticism) permeates the lives of the former, but not the latter.
I'm quite skeptical by nature and I often, though not always, need time to carefully think things through before accepting (or not accepting) them. I need as much information as possible if I'm to be convinced of something (that I've been correctly diagnosed for example).
Don't feel sorry. Just thought I'd point out something else to think about



Not to change the subject but I find it extremely interesting, fascinating and odd that:
1. Some WP folks (myself included) get professionally diagnosed, yet still express doubt/skepticism with the formal diagnosis
while
2. Other WP folks have the confidence to self-diagnose (without any doubt/skepticism)
I wonder if this (doubt/skepticism) permeates the lives of the former, but not the latter.
Interesting, I wonder if that will be the case (still waiting). As of yet, I don't have much confidence in the system itself. It seems that the prevalence of those who are qualified to make an accurate diagnosis in the mental health system in the States is very small compared to how many actually make diagnoses. Until the eye tracking technology or brain scans (or some other yet known to us physical diagnosis) become more common place, it's gonna be hard not to be skeptical. I know I fit enough criteria to warrant a diagnosis, so for all practical purposes, I assume the diagnosis, though I still wonder if my oddities could be better explained via a conglomeration of other factors.
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(I feel like I'm writing the same things over and over but this is really relevant to me. I'll keep writing here for now instead of starting new threads. At least when it comes to this subject.)
I wonder if obsessing over the results is proof of diagnosis

Obessing over this seems to me a much more autistic kind of thinking than self-diagnosing without doubt, which seems like neurotypical thinking to me.
I usually trust the judgments of obsessors on various issues, including autism diagnosis and research results, because I know that they are obsessors who have obsessed a lot and gone over tiny details many times to spot errors and eggsplore alternative eggsplanations. I usually can't trust the judgments of people around me who I think are not obsessive enough and too driven by general eggspectation top-down instead of tiny details and obsessing over them.
When I have a question about science or how to do some eggsperiment or how to calculate something, I will consult the obsessors instead of the more normal people around me.
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(I feel like I'm writing the same things over and over but this is really relevant to me. I'll keep writing here for now instead of starting new threads. At least when it comes to this subject.)
I wonder if obsessing over the results is proof of diagnosis

Obessing over this seems to me a much more autistic kind of thinking than self-diagnosing without doubt, which seems like neurotypical thinking to me.
I usually trust the judgments of obsessors on various issues, including autism diagnosis and research results, because I know that they are obsessors who have obsessed a lot and gone over tiny details many times to spot errors and eggsplore alternative eggsplanations. I usually can't trust the judgments of people around me who I think are not obsessive enough and too driven by general eggspectation top-down instead of tiny details and obsessing over them.
When I have a question about science or how to do some eggsperiment or how to calculate something, I will consult the obsessors instead of the more normal people around me.
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It's not the same: obsessing over self-diagnosis vs. obsessing over professional diagnosis after a thorough detailed assessment.
The first is much more susceptible to top-down influences to make information fit a certain model.
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Drain and plane and grain and blain your brain, and then again,
Propane and butane out of the gas main, your blain shall sustain!
The first is much more susceptible to top-down influences to make information fit a certain model.
_________________
"I'm bad and that's good. I'll never be good and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me."
Wreck It Ralph
I usually trust the judgments of obsessors on various issues, including autism diagnosis and research results, because I know that they are obsessors who have obsessed a lot and gone over tiny details many times to spot errors and eggsplore alternative eggsplanations. I usually can't trust the judgments of people around me who I think are not obsessive enough and too driven by general eggspectation top-down instead of tiny details and obsessing over them.
When I have a question about science or how to do some eggsperiment or how to calculate something, I will consult the obsessors instead of the more normal people around me.
Count me as one of those who obsesses over the tiny details. Of everything. The problem is, when you closely inspect anything, you will find flaws or inconsistencies. Sometimes I wish I could turn it off. I cannot.
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It's not possible to turn it off.
It's not possible to not notice tiny details and obsess over them.
Like NT social cognition, this tendency seems to be automatic and mandatory.
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Well, it can be both a blessing and a curse.
I have always liked the way Temple Grandin described her thinking style. She writes: ?All my thinking is bottom-up instead of top-down. I find lots of little details and put them together to form concepts and theories?.
I have a very similar bottoms-up thinking style. Fortunately, I chose a profession (software system development) where this type of thinking can be quite useful. I say ?can be? because I sometimes annoy my neurotypical co-workers and bosses by identifying flaws in their thinking/designs/plans. It?s not at all difficult to do (sort of like ?shooting fish in a barrel?). Early in my working career, I wondered why I was the only one that saw this stuff. Now I know.
It's not possible to not notice tiny details and obsess over them.
Like NT social cognition, this tendency seems to be automatic and mandatory.
Really? It seems like my inability to turn this off is the direct cause of my near-constant worry/stress.
In fact, one of the reasons I started therapy was to learn how to better deal with this. I was hoping that would help. Because I put this ?scope? on everything. Even the smallest decisions go through this process. Which is one of the reasons I love routines. The ?scope? does not analyze my routines. As those have become accepted and, just as importantly, optimized.
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