Do AS people not use their sub-conscious?

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Same HERE! Heck, I had some memories I thought were when I was older, and I found out I was 4! I remembered a house, and found out much later that we moved out of there before I was 2. And I remember doing a lot of things at times when I didn't speak, so I must have been young. I can't say I remember being born. I don't even think I remember being circumcised. Still, I do remember a lot. And I DO remember being upset when I got too used to the kind of internal talking. I am only now starting to really try to break that down. I have always skimmed books at libraries and bookstores, but I can slow that down by 50% and get much of the comprehension I have at reading the normal way.

Steve

LostInSpace wrote:

'Even if neither Aspies nor auties have social intuition_ _'

I feel I have some social intuition; can't there be a sliding scale from 'none' to 'too much'?

thanks guys for these thoughts. i am worried that i may raise false hopes - that i was not AS (although I think I was), that I was very mild AS and thus could get out where others couldn't etc. and I'm sorry if it feels like I'm trying to convert too zealously.

but isn't it an interesting question to ask 'what if someone did find a way out of AS, through some fortuitous combination of circumstance? (when I look at my life this March there were a lot of good circumstances coming together at that time to lift me and build my optimism and hope ) - what would happen?'
I think we'd expect
(a) that person would feel pretty amazingly good from being able to communicate with people, feel, have social joy,
(b) he might feel some obligation, moral compassion, to try to share it,
(c) most people would think he was a real nutter because what he's saying is unexpected and against previous assumptions. (it's sad that I wasn't professionally diagnosed, although I think the evidence is pretty clear (see bottom para of my Intro page).)
(d) but then (I HOPE) a few other people might try around with the approaches and ideas, and find their own way through, out from AS - and then it would develop and spread,... and a lot of people would have a lot better lives in all the years to come.

all the best
JC

JCJC777, What you have done has merit and usage. Dont think it hasnt. And a little criticism isnt a reason to leave WP.

Remember that an NT works by system too. Its simply internalized and locked away in their subconscious. As aspies we dont get to have that, but there are strengths as well as drawbacks.

The recognition that you are thinking in a systemized way is HUGE. It allows you to work on the system its self, rather than a simple collection of rulesets. Its something that very few NTs(for example), get to see. It frees ones mind, and I can see that in your writing.

At middle age, you should have a good collection of rule sets anyway, regardless of AS/NT specifics. Now is your time of rationality, when you get to use or discard procedure based on merit, rather than blind attempts.

Keep going. Keep thinking.

I wasn't trying to say Aspies don't have any social intuition- I just meant that *even* if they didn't, so on and so forth. I was answering a question that someone else had asked.

I've just tried reading that site, and...there's just SO MUCH that's flat out wrong and/or backwards with it.

You can't "unlearn" Asperger's, anymore than you can "unlearn" a broken arm. You can get help with how it affects your life though (I hope).

The brain differences are NOT caused by thinking differently. That's completely backwards.

Thinking things through in social situations is done BECAUSE of a lack of...whatever (can't think of the word but you know what I mean). I mean of COURSE it's caused by unsuccessful social situations because Aspies can't process it the normal way. "Turning off" the thought process used for social situations wouldn't HELP anything, it would just cause you to be completely unsuccessful at social situations. Plus I don't even have many thought processes, I just don't always know what I'm supposed to be doing.

I agree it would be great to identify people early, but that's so we can help them in areas they need help, not so they can be changed.

Okay, I've tried skimming everything, and can't find anything listed that has to do with AS. What were your actual symptoms? A lot of the stuff I'm reading on that site doesn't seem to apply to AS.

And at any rate, a ton of the info doesn't describe AS. And I for one DON'T hyper systemize (SP) as per the definition on that site.

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im better at remembering things i like. i dont know what that uses but

I have always dreamt in color. I've heard old people dream in black and white because of b&w television.

By the way, sometimes I dream I am reading a comics or a book. Unluckily, I read only part of them in my dream, so I don't know how the stories ended

Reading in dreams and having a colored dream are said to be unusual, but I don't know if this is true.

... really? Once my dad asked me that question, and I just... didn't get it. I didn't think anybody could actually dream in black and white.

My earliest memory is from my 2nd birthday. I have a friend who says she remembers that she was pulled out of her mother's womb by her toes (she was born Caesarian).

My subconcious is overactive and self destructive.

I agree with this. If I go say to the doctor and he asks "How are you?" as soon as I enter, I have to think what he means. I mean does he mean a general how are you? or does he mean how are you in a kind of way that asks what is wrong with me or is he doing the NT automatic thing when you meet people?

When I don't get it, I stare blankly and people think I am odd. I don't get how other people know which thing it is.

Have you ever had a dream in which you were sleeping and woke up in your dream. I had that once, and then another time I actually dreamt that I was sleeping during which I was dreaming that I was sleeping. It sounds like a Calvin and Hobbes comic, but it actually happened. So I "woke up" twice before I was actually awake for real. Finally I pinched myself to see if I was reallly awake. It was weird.

Subconscient is used although I don't notice it.

For example, this semester I had problems with learning and concentration at college. Instead of searching for help, my subconscient made me avoid the problem, I was waking up late in the morning (I didn't know how I could sleep so much) and being in something like a "freeze" state (I needed someone touch me for returning to the world), so I couldn't be concentrated at classes, someone told me yesterday that it was an AS trait, well it's a long story. The worst part is that I didn't notice my subconscient did that and now it's too late

If I only could control my subconscient

I do that too I have a hard time with "how are you"-until fairly recently I would just tell the person how I was. Once I figured out what I was "supposed" to do, it still gives me problems, and with doctors especially I'm not sure what to do. I'm still not sure if they're asking the dumb NT "how are you" or are inquiring because of their job.