New symbol for autism from autistic perspective

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14 Dec 2011, 4:35 pm

It's a neurological variation. It's in the DSM because it's a variation that prevents certain types of function that are considered not only "normal" and "expected" but also necessary for the way most people live and interact.

A friend of mine who'd been in the mental health profession once explained to me that the difference between a personal way of living and doing things that may be unusual and something that's considered a problem, from a clinical standpoint, is in whether or not it seems to interfere with the ordinary living of life. For example, looking at pornography isn't a problem until it becomes so all-consuming that the person stops seeing friends and having relationships; has difficulty with work, housekeeping, and personal care; and can't seem to stop or adjust the amount of the activity to re-balance the other aspects of life. Then it's an addiction, not just a pleasurable pastime. Until then, it doesn't matter how much pornography is viewed, even if other people don't feel comfortable about it. In other words, does someone give up going out to a party that he or she would otherwise have attended because the draw of the pornography is too strong to give it up long enough to be with friends doing something else for a while? Or is it killing a marriage because the couple can no longer relate, due to one partner's inability to connect with a real person anymore?

I believe autism is considered a problematic condition, even in mild cases, because of the functional issues associated. The complaint we might have with that, however, is that a lot of the problems are really caused by intolerance and lack of understanding on the part of the majority, as with many other things that are not conditions, illnesses, injuries, or addictions. Being gay is not a mental illness just because some people are uneasy about it and because gays don't want the usual binary gendered romantic relationships. We're not impaired. Other people have been prejudiced and ignorant.

So, the question is how much of autism is rightly considered impairment and how much is acceptable variation that others should just chill about. That's the debate. Until autistics can be better heard, the debate can't move forward properly. And many people don't want to be pushed into treatments that would be proven inappropriate if autism were properly understood.

Learning NT behaviors and intellectual understandings of things NTs pick up naturally is like deaf people learning to read lips and speak. It's an adaptation that can be useful, but some are better at it than others. Sign language is still the more accessible language, and a person who doesn't read lips or speak well is not unable to read, write, drive, study, teach, dance, and so on. The lessened or lack of ability to hear (there's a range for deafness, as with many things) will make some things difficult and others impossible, but most things in life are possible, even if some adaptation is required in order to accomplish them. So, it's a matter of finding out what's possible, what's not, what it takes to make the possible more attainable, which adaptations are best for which individuals, and then how far any particular individual can go. You can't discover these things by refusing to learn from deaf people. And you can't expect that hearing aids, cochlear implants, or intensive lip reading and speech training will be appropriate for every deaf person, nor can you expect all of them to be capable of the truly amazing things that a few have been able to manage. On TV once, I saw a deaf woman who both sings and plays musical instruments very well. But she's not a common example.

Food for further thought: It used to be that deaf children were forbidden, in many schools designed for them, to sign at all. It was thought to impede the development of lip reading and speech skills. This was eventually proven false. Furthermore, sign, as a fully accessible language, was finally proven vital to the development of the ability to understand fully how language works. It's very damaging to prevent full access to language during the prime language developmental period in childhood. So, preventing signing was actually doing harm. But the people in charge didn't know this, so they ignorantly did things like beat kids and tied their hands if they caught them signing.

And one more interesting note: Sign language, by the way, is the only language in the world taught primarily to children by other children. All the rest rely more heavily on adults teaching children.


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12 May 2012, 9:26 pm

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How about a grey ribbon cable (like the ones used by IDE hard drives), with one end soldered to a microSD card breakout board?

The microSD card represents gigabytes of knowledge acquired from the obsession-of-the-week

The ribbon cable represents the pinnacle of High Geekdom.

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14 May 2012, 2:43 am

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For the text version? >.>

I like the square/circle though. It has my vote.

I've told people I can it a square block through a round hole before, received incredulous looks, and then showed them it is very possible if they just pull their head out of their arse and use a smaller square <.<

Also, what is a square circle? That's a good one...lol, cylinder.

Ok, I'll stop.



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14 May 2012, 3:12 am

At the risk of being no fun, I reject symbol. It's another "you are this" then there's someone pointing at the this. Even if it's me pointing, I reject this. It's me. I'm not you. I hope that's great.


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14 May 2012, 10:12 am

i like the puzzle pattern. bright colors make me happy.


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14 May 2012, 2:17 pm

I like the infinity symbol.


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14 May 2012, 2:43 pm

A Siamese cat! Or a ribbon that is the color of a Seal Point Siamese cat and gets darker in color twoards the end.
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14 May 2012, 3:14 pm

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14 May 2012, 3:15 pm

What about an orange ribbon? I once heard (can't remember where) that at least aspies often love the color orange? Don't know if the color is taken for something else though....


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14 May 2012, 3:19 pm

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What about an orange ribbon? I once heard (can't remember where) that at least aspies often love the color orange? Don't know if the color is taken for something else though....


Ribbons are weak.



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14 May 2012, 3:44 pm

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yondoloki wrote:
What about an orange ribbon? I once heard (can't remember where) that at least aspies often love the color orange? Don't know if the color is taken for something else though....


Ribbons are weak.


sry, I kind of just got fixated on ribbons... I would just suggest the color...


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14 May 2012, 3:59 pm

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shrox wrote:
yondoloki wrote:
What about an orange ribbon? I once heard (can't remember where) that at least aspies often love the color orange? Don't know if the color is taken for something else though....


Ribbons are weak.


sry, I kind of just got fixated on ribbons... I would just suggest the color...


They are just so overused. I saw one for Bake Sale Awareness.



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14 May 2012, 5:48 pm

Ah, more evidence of how different we are from each other. Here we are, reviving this conversation again, and disagreeing just as much as before. :lol:

Well, I'm still using my design on my resources page at my Website and now have taken to using it at my new Twitter account.

I have no objection to diversity, but we might want to keep in mind whether or not this will get across the commonality we share in a way that people will recognize after repeated exposure. So, I guess here's the question: Are we representing ourselves just to ourselves, in which case we can individually have as many symbols as we like and simply explain why we display them as we go, or are we trying to represent ourselves collectively, not only to our whole, varied group, but to NTs as well, who will likely not get it unless they have one design they can always remember as being ours, because most of them are not privy to this conversation.

I'm actually okay with either. If we want to be really individual about symbols, we can also collectively go with our tendency to be more literal. Whenever we want a common way to announce the presence of individuals on the spectrum or remind people of the concept, we can just display words, either alone or in some context, that say it clearly: "Autism Spectrum". You can even stress our individuality with the words, "Autism Spectrum Individual". Then display the design of your choice.

This is just one suggestion. It's an interesting subject, and I'm enjoying the exchange of ideas.


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