The different gut bacteria in autistic individuals may be...
Here we go again...
I was off the forum for a week and this argument is my warm welcome back.
Goldfish21 you have already said this over TEN times. This new article provides nothing you haven't said before.
Everything in your articles have been discredited, and no new information has been presented.
Can you please not start this again until some new evidence is found. All it does is get people riled up and you know it.
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I was off the forum for a week and this argument is my warm welcome back.
Goldfish21 you have already said this over TEN times. This new article provides nothing you haven't said before.
Everything in your articles have been discredited, and no new information has been presented.
Can you please not start this again until some new evidence is found. All it does is get people riled up and you know it.

<3 you, too.

Nothing has been discredited or disproved. Some have said they don't believe it or that they cannot believe it due to small sample sizes and the possibility of other explanations - but none of it has been proven to be false. If it has, and I've overlooked it, please feel free to point it out to me.
Further, there's been plenty of new information over the last better part of a year including successful probiotic treatments on mice. Eventually research will catch up to prove what some of us already know and then others will have their studies and empirical evidence that will allow them to believe what they're reading.
Welcome back.

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I don't know, but somehow I doubt my GP would order stool sample tests for bacterial cultures since symptoms are no longer significant. He might. But again, I don't think it would be a very good use of resources. I think he'd be more likely to listen to me & prescribe an anti fungal that can otherwise do no harm
There is no such thing as a prescription antifungal that can otherwise do no harm. I suspect that you are talking about the echinocandins. Google will tell you that they are celebrated for their low toxicity. But this is low toxicity compared to amphotericin B, an antifungal so toxic that doctors call it "amphoterrible" and use it only as a last resort when the alternative is death.
No doctor should prescribe an antifungal just on your say-so. At the very least, liver damage is a risk. This is generally considered an acceptable risk for people with diagnosed candida (emphasis on diagnosed). Livers can heal. But self diagnosed? No. No doctor would risk that.
I implore you not to try to get an antifungal on the down low through the internet after a doctor says no. They are not to be messed with, not even the echinocandins.

This kind of logic, from my perspective, discredits everything you report. I have seen you post links to research studies that don't support the argument you are making and I think you parse things very loosely, looking for text that can be interpreted as supporting an idea you are developing, rather than trying to understand what the authors are reporting. I think you may be experiencing the Dunning-Kruger effect in the area of interpreting medical information.
Just because you aren't deliberately lying, that doesn't make you correct.
Articles like this annoy me. I don't suffer from aspergers I suffer from nt treatment. Growing up I was an extremely sociable person but after failing in time and time and being made fun of for being different I developed social anxiety.
My social issues come from nts expectations not just because I'm on the spectrum. When I speak with nt people and let them know I have aspergers and how I think and how I may be a little odd I am very open and social. If I don't understand something I let them know and explain my thought process.
I strongly support this course of action. Talk a doctor through the whole thing and ask which antifungal they would recommend. It is more likely to be effective than your enemas and it would also help you get to the root of your problems.
What Janissy and I have been driving at is that if you do have a serious gastrointestinal problem, which from your descriptions it seems you might do, it's better if you are going at it with help and can find out what is actually wrong.
Bowels are really weird and you don't want to disturb anything.
I would like to add this: For safety's sake, please don't take a veterinary medicine, see a doctor and she/he will give you a prescription if you actually need one.
Also Goldfish, eventho I generally don't have a problem with self-diagnosis (for Aspergers/autism), I really think you should get diagnosed by a professional (for both autism, and bacteria/infection), because your cure/diet involves some pretty drastic, and borderline dangerous (as Walrus mentioned), measures/changes. Also, if I remember correctly you mentioned you wanted to write a book on the subject (your cure/diet), and I assure you that it would be much more convincing if you were actually diagnosed with the conditions (autism, bacteria) you claim to have and/or have cured.
MD's can't prescribe this particular veterinary medication. They can prescribe a couple of antifungals, though. I'm going to research them all further & figure out which one is ideal to try first. As for the veterinary drug, it's not officially approved for human use.. but from everything I've read it's completely safe to use. It doesn't harm cats, dogs, or gorillas. It works by attacking and destroying a certain type of cell that mammals don't have. Basically, it can only destroy parasites who's cellular walls contain Chitin (chi·tin
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nounBIOCHEMISTRY
a fibrous substance consisting of polysaccharides and forming the major constituent in the exoskeleton of arthropods and the cell walls of fungi.) by rupturing them. Otherwise the medication just passes straight through our bodies and doesn't do anything else. The only potential pitfall is taking too much of it too early, which could make someone sick due to all the toxins & heavy metals being released by the exploded parasites. Other than that, I've read that you basically get two shots at using it in strong doses, after that the parasites may develop a resistance to it so it's no longer effective. That's one major reason I have yet to try it because I didn't want to take it early on and have it not kill off everything & then be rendered ineffective. Now that there can't be much left, just deep within the intestinal tract, it may be ok to give it a shot - unless, of course, my research dictates that one of the couple of antifungals prescribed by Western Medicine ought to be the next course of action. I'll figure it out - so far I've been doing pretty good at this game.

I've also been over this many times on this forum. I've been transparent about the books I've read & symptoms I've had and the reason(s) I haven't sought an official diagnosis. I don't want the stigma of it nor it's potential effect on my future. You can have yourself an official diagnosis all you want - I don't want nor require one. All that combined with the fact that my symptoms are minimal compared to what they once were as they're no longer significantly impacting my ability to function in life means that I'd feel a bit guilty about wasting public medical resources seeking a diagnosis for something that has no official treatment protocol in the first place, and is no longer ruining my life. The only reason I can see to get an official diagnosis would be to satisfy people like yourselves who don't believe me. I don't believe that's a proper use of medical resources, nor do I really care whether or not you believe me to be honest. Like my signature now says: Just because you don't believe me doesn't make me a liar.
I don't know, but somehow I doubt my GP would order stool sample tests for bacterial cultures since symptoms are no longer significant. He might. But again, I don't think it would be a very good use of resources. I think he'd be more likely to listen to me & prescribe an anti fungal that can otherwise do no harm and has no street value or addictive pain killing properties or anything as it would satisfy me and my needs. Doing lab tests like this would likely be an out of pocket expense for me, which I could afford if I wanted to, but I already believe myself and don't Need the results verified. It would be different if I were conducting an in depth medical study and documenting every bit of data I could observe at regular time intervals or something - but I'm not doing that & haven't been. Like I said before, I'm simply treating myself to get healthier asap vs. micro-documenting every bit of the process. This isn't a medical study. This is me practically & logically treating myself and getting healthier and healthier for it.
There's nothing dangerous about anything I've done over the last couple of years. Driving my car is plenty more dangerous. The kiteboarding I did for the latter half of the Summer is plenty more dangerous. Getting healthier via a diet of protein, veggies, herbs/spices/oils etc isn't dangerous. Nor are enemas - unless you're an absolute idiot and do something really stupid like use boiling water or far too high of a concentration of ACV or something of the sort.
I don't recall specifically saying I wanted to write a book about it. I did say that the post I had made was a first draft run-through and was posted asap vs. something I would publish. That was my explanation for why it was a bit imperfect in terms of structure & presentation. I had said I had been doing something that was working wonders and the response from the forums was to share what I had asap or I must not have anything to share of value at all, so, I shared it as it was after initially typing it up. The response was less than positive from many of you on these forums, so in the last ~year I haven't bothered to edit it into anything more presentable. People figure I was lying, or it was a hoax, or that I was trying to sell them something. None of the above are true. I haven't asked anyone for anything. I haven't offered anything for sale. I've said go support your local shops and buy foods/herbs etc. I just want to add to all of that nonsense a question for you: What possible motivation could I have for lying about any of this? Seriously. What exactly is it that those who don't believe me think I could possibly get out of making this stuff up? I've wondered that for the last ~year.
And to address your last sentence.. once again; Just because you don't believe me doesn't make me a liar.
I believe you are convinced that you have certain "conditions", but this doesn't mean that you actually have them. Its not about whether I believe you or not anyway, its about the fact that you are taking drastic, borderline dangerous, measures, to get rid of these "conditions", and are trying to convince others to do the same, and this with no proof whatsoever that you have/had any of these "conditions" to begin with.
And again I repeat, before taking drastic measures to cure a "condition", and before taking a medication to get rid of a bacteria, or infection, whatever you call it, to the least you should get official diagnoses and get some tests done to make sure you do have these issues. I don't understand why you don't want to get an official diagnosis at least for the bacteria/infection, wouldn't it be a relief to know for sure whether you have it or not?
About a month ago my husband had a really bad blood infection and a pneumonia (he almost died, and was at the hospital for about 2 weeks), and guess what, the doctors did some tests first to identify what he had, and to make sure they would give him the right medication, and the correct dosage. Its just common sense.
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I strongly support this course of action. Talk a doctor through the whole thing and ask which antifungal they would recommend. It is more likely to be effective than your enemas and it would also help you get to the root of your problems.
What Janissy and I have been driving at is that if you do have a serious gastrointestinal problem, which from your descriptions it seems you might do, it's better if you are going at it with help and can find out what is actually wrong.
Bowels are really weird and you don't want to disturb anything.
I would like to add this: For safety's sake, please don't take a veterinary medicine, see a doctor and she/he will give you a prescription if you actually need one.
Also Goldfish, eventho I generally don't have a problem with self-diagnosis (for Aspergers/autism), I really think you should get diagnosed by a professional (for both autism, and bacteria/infection), because your cure/diet involves some pretty drastic, and borderline dangerous (as Walrus mentioned), measures/changes. Also, if I remember correctly you mentioned you wanted to write a book on the subject (your cure/diet), and I assure you that it would be much more convincing if you were actually diagnosed with the conditions (autism, bacteria) you claim to have and/or have cured.
MD's can't prescribe this particular veterinary medication. They can prescribe a couple of antifungals, though. I'm going to research them all further & figure out which one is ideal to try first. As for the veterinary drug, it's not officially approved for human use.. but from everything I've read it's completely safe to use. It doesn't harm cats, dogs, or gorillas. It works by attacking and destroying a certain type of cell that mammals don't have. Basically, it can only destroy parasites who's cellular walls contain Chitin (chi·tin
ˈkītn/Submit
nounBIOCHEMISTRY
a fibrous substance consisting of polysaccharides and forming the major constituent in the exoskeleton of arthropods and the cell walls of fungi.) by rupturing them. Otherwise the medication just passes straight through our bodies and doesn't do anything else. The only potential pitfall is taking too much of it too early, which could make someone sick due to all the toxins & heavy metals being released by the exploded parasites. Other than that, I've read that you basically get two shots at using it in strong doses, after that the parasites may develop a resistance to it so it's no longer effective. That's one major reason I have yet to try it because I didn't want to take it early on and have it not kill off everything & then be rendered ineffective. Now that there can't be much left, just deep within the intestinal tract, it may be ok to give it a shot - unless, of course, my research dictates that one of the couple of antifungals prescribed by Western Medicine ought to be the next course of action. I'll figure it out - so far I've been doing pretty good at this game.

I've also been over this many times on this forum. I've been transparent about the books I've read & symptoms I've had and the reason(s) I haven't sought an official diagnosis. I don't want the stigma of it nor it's potential effect on my future. You can have yourself an official diagnosis all you want - I don't want nor require one. All that combined with the fact that my symptoms are minimal compared to what they once were as they're no longer significantly impacting my ability to function in life means that I'd feel a bit guilty about wasting public medical resources seeking a diagnosis for something that has no official treatment protocol in the first place, and is no longer ruining my life. The only reason I can see to get an official diagnosis would be to satisfy people like yourselves who don't believe me. I don't believe that's a proper use of medical resources, nor do I really care whether or not you believe me to be honest. Like my signature now says: Just because you don't believe me doesn't make me a liar.
I don't know, but somehow I doubt my GP would order stool sample tests for bacterial cultures since symptoms are no longer significant. He might. But again, I don't think it would be a very good use of resources. I think he'd be more likely to listen to me & prescribe an anti fungal that can otherwise do no harm and has no street value or addictive pain killing properties or anything as it would satisfy me and my needs. Doing lab tests like this would likely be an out of pocket expense for me, which I could afford if I wanted to, but I already believe myself and don't Need the results verified. It would be different if I were conducting an in depth medical study and documenting every bit of data I could observe at regular time intervals or something - but I'm not doing that & haven't been. Like I said before, I'm simply treating myself to get healthier asap vs. micro-documenting every bit of the process. This isn't a medical study. This is me practically & logically treating myself and getting healthier and healthier for it.
There's nothing dangerous about anything I've done over the last couple of years. Driving my car is plenty more dangerous. The kiteboarding I did for the latter half of the Summer is plenty more dangerous. Getting healthier via a diet of protein, veggies, herbs/spices/oils etc isn't dangerous. Nor are enemas - unless you're an absolute idiot and do something really stupid like use boiling water or far too high of a concentration of ACV or something of the sort.
I don't recall specifically saying I wanted to write a book about it. I did say that the post I had made was a first draft run-through and was posted asap vs. something I would publish. That was my explanation for why it was a bit imperfect in terms of structure & presentation. I had said I had been doing something that was working wonders and the response from the forums was to share what I had asap or I must not have anything to share of value at all, so, I shared it as it was after initially typing it up. The response was less than positive from many of you on these forums, so in the last ~year I haven't bothered to edit it into anything more presentable. People figure I was lying, or it was a hoax, or that I was trying to sell them something. None of the above are true. I haven't asked anyone for anything. I haven't offered anything for sale. I've said go support your local shops and buy foods/herbs etc. I just want to add to all of that nonsense a question for you: What possible motivation could I have for lying about any of this? Seriously. What exactly is it that those who don't believe me think I could possibly get out of making this stuff up? I've wondered that for the last ~year.
And to address your last sentence.. once again; Just because you don't believe me doesn't make me a liar.
I believe you are convinced that you have certain "conditions", but this doesn't mean that you actually have them. Its not about whether I believe you or not anyway, its about the fact that you are taking drastic, borderline dangerous, measures, to get rid of these "conditions", and are trying to convince others to do the same, and this with no proof whatsoever that you have/had any of these "conditions" to begin with.
And again I repeat, before taking drastic measures to cure a "condition", and before taking a medication to get rid of a bacteria, or infection, whatever you call it, to the least you should get official diagnoses and get some tests done to make sure you do have these issues. I don't understand why you don't want to get an official diagnosis at least for the bacteria/infection, wouldn't it be a relief to know for sure whether you have it or not?
About a month ago my husband had a really bad blood infection and a pneumonia (he almost died, and was at the hospital for about 2 weeks), and guess what, the doctors did some tests first to identify what he had, and to make sure they would give him the right medication, and the correct dosage. Its just common sense.
I completely agree.
If life is so much better and the GP doc says you are healthy, what's the point of taking some veterinary medicine? Why even mess with that stuff?
If you honestly believe something is wrong, get checked out by a professional with expertise. If that's not worth your time and money because you feel it's a waste of resources, again what's the point of injecting yourself with veterinary medicine then?
P.S. Glad to hear your husband made it okay Shadi2. That must have been very stressful for you both.

....if you're responding to me (as this post was immediately after mine), well....
....let's just say that responses like THAT are not helping one bit.
Did you actually READ what I said? Or did you look at "big blob of text" and see "big blob of text that must be calling me a liar, I dont need to read it, I already know"? Because, I kinda.... totally didnt call you that, or say that.
What I did was twofold:
1. Explain part of why people either A: automatically disbelieved you, or B: didnt listen to you. It's in the first half of the text blob. I did this because in the topic you seemed to be wondering why people kept questioning what you say.
2. Point out something you could do that would immediately add alot of credibility, making it a bit easier to get people to listen to you.
I never called you a liar, AND I didnt actually even mention my own opinions on your advice (I'm not really the sort to take advice... I do my own research and use that to make decisions as I see fit, since I'm used to being in control. I never said that I did or didnt believe you, and quite frankly, that you'd have such an automatic response of that sort is.... not a good thing, and probably not helping your cause here. I'm not the sort of person to call someone a liar. And frankly, if I DO dislike someone enough to be insulting... I get into a state where I'm not NICE enough to merely stop at "liar". I dont dislike anyone here though, so...
I can understand frustration at people constantly having issues with what you're saying, but it might be wise to step back a moment and analyze your own reactions to what OTHERS say, as it seriously isnt going to help get people to listen to you more.
EDIT: *looks back at old post* Aha, I see a bit I may have phrased wrong.
When I said that I dont think people should put much stock into the advice, the reasoning wasnt "I think it's false". The reasoning was: This is advice given out over the Net, by someone who isnt a licensed professional, and moreso, is self-diagnosed on the subject of Aspergers/Autism/whatever. The lack of PROPER diagnosis means that, in theory, your SELF-diagnosis could be, actually, quite wrong... in which case the advice is actually for someone in a different situation, other than the situation of having Aspergers. And advice for a medical state that ISNT what you actually have can be a bloody bad idea. If you can get a proper diagnosis somehow, so you can say "Yes, I do indeed have Aspergers, I was examined by experts to prove it!", it becomes so much easier to give this advice to people... and safer. Until that happens though, I do believe the reasons against it are at least somewhat valid, if maybe a bit rude at times...
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And to address your last sentence.. once again; Just because you don't believe me doesn't make me a liar.
Rather than have the same discussion in circles.. again, I wanted to quote myself here & re-ask this question. Because I'm legitimately curious as to what your responses are to it.
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Rather than have the same discussion in circles.. again, I wanted to quote myself here & re-ask this question. Because I'm legitimately curious as to what your responses are to it.[/quote]
Suppose the answer is that you get nothing out of this: does that make the conclusions you've drawn correct? That is not a logical conclusion.
But consider the possible answers: what might you get out of this?
There are many possible answers. Among those possibilities:
You might like to feel that you have done something special.
You might enjoy feeling that you have discovered something that others did not find.
You might enjoy the idea of others appreciating your achievement.
Such motivations have been documented as underlying various claims before.
I completely agree.
If life is so much better and the GP doc says you are healthy, what's the point of taking some veterinary medicine? Why even mess with that stuff?
If you honestly believe something is wrong, get checked out by a professional with expertise. If that's not worth your time and money because you feel it's a waste of resources, again what's the point of injecting yourself with veterinary medicine then?
P.S. Glad to hear your husband made it okay Shadi2. That must have been very stressful for you both.
Thank you blueblahbleh

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And to address your last sentence.. once again; Just because you don't believe me doesn't make me a liar.
Rather than have the same discussion in circles.. again, I wanted to quote myself here & re-ask this question. Because I'm legitimately curious as to what your responses are to it.
I do remember your first post, at first I thought you were trying to sell something. But after a while it became obvious that you were completely convinced that you have certain conditions, and that you also believe you cured youself of these conditions.
And your motivation is probably the same as one of my aunts (you remind me of her, she also "cures" herself of "conditions" she hasn't been diagnosed for, and tries to convince others to do the same "treatments", "diets", etc, including the colon cleansing, because she believes she can help them): you believe that you can help people.
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And to address your last sentence.. once again; Just because you don't believe me doesn't make me a liar.
Rather than have the same discussion in circles.. again, I wanted to quote myself here & re-ask this question. Because I'm legitimately curious as to what your responses are to it.
*sigh* See, I cant answer a question that HAS NO ANSWER.
Again, all you're doing is trying to reinforce the "I'm not a liar" bit, as opposed to... actually reading anything I said... What part of "I'm not calling you a liar" isnt making sense here? Which is why there is no answer to your "repeated question". I cannot answer a question about WHY I would think you're making everything up, if I dont think you're making everything up. Which I've already said....
What I'm telling you, AGAIN, is simple:
1. Reasons as to WHY people dont listen to you. Note here that I did not say "reasons as to why you are making this up".
And 2, What you need (such as a PROPER diagnosis, instead of a SELF diagnosis) to gain the credibility that might help you. Again, this does not say anything about making stuff up. Even the most honest person in the world could have trouble convincing people of the truth, or in this case, viability, of what they say if they dont have enough things creating credibility for them. Again, that's part of what I was saying earlier.
And no, point number 2 isnt an "I dont believe you". It's an "I see people saying this stuff to you over and over.... here's something that might help". Or at least it was in my original post, which was the part where I said everything in full...
Again though, you're having that knee-jerk reaction (I think that's the right phrase), and I guarantee, that's NOT helping your cause. Accept that there might be mistakes with how you're going about it, instead of getting this idea that everyone ELSE is to blame, because that's what it tends to at least LOOK like you're doing here (even if that's not ACTUALLY what you're doing).
Honestly, at this point, it kinda seems silly for you to even keep up with the whole idea. All it seems to do is cause stress and irritation and arguing, for both you, and those that disbelieve/disagree with you, or those that get the "shady salesman" vibe from what you're saying (as it occurs to me that this could be the case for some people, possibly, I'm not sure). Or whatever.
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Thing is, I didn't write this article. Nor have I written any of the other ones I posted over the last ~11 months that have all pointed to the intestines as a cause of Autism & probiotics being an ASD treatment - i.e. the article about the study in mice.. etc. These articles and videos are coming from people who are formally studying and documenting these things & figuring out bit by bit what exactly the combination of factors is that causes ASD and how to treat it.
It's nice to read a few open minded posts here and there on the forums about these things as people start to accept that this may in fact by the right direction to focus on in terms of determining cause & treatment. But it's.. interesting to see how many people remain such cynics, not merely skeptics or critics, but cynics about the whole area despite the articles, videos, and studies and so on that continue to come out about all of this stuff. I guess it's going to take a while longer for some people to accept any of this as a possibility - if even to outright reject it as not something they're interested in (a treatment), I think it's still going to eventually all be accepted as A cause of ASD & a viable treatment type. (especially probiotics.)
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It's nice to read a few open minded posts here and there on the forums about these things as people start to accept that this may in fact by the right direction to focus on in terms of determining cause & treatment. But it's.. interesting to see how many people remain such cynics, not merely skeptics or critics, but cynics about the whole area despite the articles, videos, and studies and so on that continue to come out about all of this stuff. I guess it's going to take a while longer for some people to accept any of this as a possibility - if even to outright reject it as not something they're interested in (a treatment), I think it's still going to eventually all be accepted as A cause of ASD & a viable treatment type. (especially probiotics.)
Never said you did write the articles.
What I SAID, again, was some reasons why people might be reacting to you negatively about this. Note, I said reacting TO YOU, not reacting TO THE ARTICLES. Alot of people wont even click on those, if the person referring them is A: not a professional themselves, and even moreso, B: not officially diagnosed themselves, which is relevant because of the effects you have explained that it has had on YOU specifically. Think about it: When you hear people in infomercials popping onto the screen next to some thing that is so *amazing* yet, mysteriously, nobody seems to have heard of, do you just immediately look further into it, try it out, because they say "It worked for me... it can work for you!". Likely, that's how people are viewing this, even though you're not some loopy guy on an infomercial. Wether you're trustworthy or not is irrelevant; it's the way that it's presented that causes this.
Even beyond that though, someone trying something like this out because they read it on the internet is a bloody hideous idea, which needs to be pointed out. If they want to try this, talking with their doctor FIRST is important; if they do that, then it's okay, I should think. And yes, I say that even if it worked for you. Regardless of that fact, it could be nothing but trouble for someone else trying it.... trouble that might be averted by not being encouraged to try something outright.
And really, regardless of who is making the articles, who is making the videos... it's still information coming from the Internet. A simple, global fact is that directly doing something medical-related because you heard/saw/read about it on the Internet is.... alarmingly awful, as ideas go. Unless, of course, it is discussed with docs/professionals IN PERSON, to see what they have to say about it. This applies regardless of how many people it worked for, or WHO it worked for, and utterly regardless of WHERE it comes from. Even the major, central medical sites on the Net specifically point this out about their own site, not just others, just to emphasize this overall rule.
And yes, it likely IS going to take ALOT longer for something like this to be truly "accepted". My view on it is: if the core cause of ASD was truly believed to be that, with enough evidence to fully validate it as a possibility, it'd be all over the place by now, that info. Scientists and researchers everywhere that are connected to the ASD issue as a whole would all know about it, and research would be HEAVY at this point. Right now, that does not appear to at all be the case. Things like this take time to really get somewhere, and before they do.... it's probably best not to focus on them too much. Following along with the research is fine and all... but getting others' hopes up on something that isnt even remotely close to full validation is... well, probably not the best thing.
Right now, it's totally possible that it might work out that way, but it's also very possible that it wont.... and that needs to be understood.
And as of that, I've pretty much exhausted my interest in the subject/topic, so as I tend to do when that happens, I'll leave that as my final post in this particular topic. Ponder what I said, or dont, it's up to you, but my extremely limited attention span yet again says it's time to shift to something else. Good luck to you regardless, and at the very least... try not to get too frustrated about the whole thing as you pursue it.
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