Does anyone ever feel like Data or Spock from Star Trek?
Skilpadde wrote:
You didn't like Voyager, zkydz? It is the only Star trek series I loved. I never got that into the others, and some I didn't like at all. I thought Next Gen was okay, though, but nowhere near as captivating as Voyager.
My favorites in Voyager were the EMH, B'Elanna Torres and Harry Kim. The only one in the series that I didn't like was Neelix, he was too annoying and tiring. Although I could relate to some of Seven's problems, she was too lacking in personality. Did she progress during the seasons? Sure, a bit, but not enough to make her a very interesting character for me. Actually the lacking personality could to some degree be said about Harry Kim too, we didn't see all that much of who he was and I would have liked more, but I really like how he came off, a very sympathetic character.
I found most of the Voyager characters to be bland and underutilized. It felt forced. I really didn't like most of anything that Berman and Braga did. I dunno why. It had so much promise and it just kinda fizzled for me. It's purely me.
My favorites in Voyager were the EMH, B'Elanna Torres and Harry Kim. The only one in the series that I didn't like was Neelix, he was too annoying and tiring. Although I could relate to some of Seven's problems, she was too lacking in personality. Did she progress during the seasons? Sure, a bit, but not enough to make her a very interesting character for me. Actually the lacking personality could to some degree be said about Harry Kim too, we didn't see all that much of who he was and I would have liked more, but I really like how he came off, a very sympathetic character.
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diablo291 wrote:
I tend to feel a lot like Spock. I think most ASD people do.
Data is a bit different, his character wants to be more like other people. I, on the other hand, don't really want to fit in with others I just like being myself
Interesting observation and spot on.Data is a bit different, his character wants to be more like other people. I, on the other hand, don't really want to fit in with others I just like being myself

1.) from the outset, Data did want to be human and embrace all that gooey emotional mess
2.) Spock tried to remove all of that and eventually grow to accept and understand that humanity is required and not just logic.
That resonated with me because I have gone through distinct phases of my life where I have bounced from one to the other type of philosophy, finally arriving at "accept and build my inborn strengths, but work to gain that 'thing' that NTs enjoy. Eventually, I hope to find that sweet spot that combines both into something where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
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I usually appear bereft of emotion, yet I do not consider myself to be a particularly logical human being. But I certainly am cautious, amenable and distant.
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Squirtlegirl: I like Voyager! I used to watch old episodes with my mum when I was little.
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Kuraudo777 wrote:
Squirtlegirl: I like Voyager! I used to watch old episodes with my mum when I was little. 
I wonder if age and when you see things affect that. I mean, two of my favorite childhood shows I love were just silly. Not a bad comparison, mind you. Just letting you know that Voyager was Shakespeare compared to these two shows.
Lost in Space
Batman
Silly, campy, but it was my 'must see TV' when a kid!
Matter of fact, the first episode of Lost in Space was where I learned about inertia because I didn't understand why they would be lost outside of the spaceship if it had to take off. I thought they would just go with it, but my father, the engineer Aspie, taught me about inertia and vector changes of two independent bodies in space.
Even at 6 I was a space junkie and Sci-Fi nut. Anything with that or superheroes....sigh.....
I even got this for Christmas that year:

It was cool. The chariot came out of the Syrofoam Jupiter 2, rode a tube track and when it passed over a pump activated pressure switch, you could fire a 'missile' at the biant cyclops. The Jupiter 2 had separate top and bottom halves and you could move the figures around inside. But, even then I hated that the Jupiter 2 did not look like the one in the show

Good times though......
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Edenthiel wrote:
zkydz wrote:
Kuraudo777 wrote:
Silly, campy, but it was my 'must see TV' when a kid!
In my head I hear Dr. Smith saying "Oh, the pain, the pain...."
What;s funny is with modern demographic research and targeting audiences, it turns out Star Trek and Wild Wild West were both very successful by today's demography.
Wild Wild West was actually cancelled by the network because the president of CBS at the time thought it was too violent.
In keeping with LIS...Here is Apollo 440 and their redo of the third season TV theme. John Williams was just so good for those shows.
Loved his "Land of the Giants" theme from the second season.
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Is it true that the first few seasons of Voyager are rather boring? If so, could I potentially skip ahead?
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^ I didn't find them boring, but taste differs.
Kuraudo777 wrote:
Squirtlegirl: I like Voyager! I used to watch old episodes with my mum when I was little. 
Yay! Both my mother and I were taken with them show. Huh... Are females more likely to like it for some reason, or is that coincidence? 
zkydz wrote:
Kuraudo777 wrote:
Squirtlegirl: I like Voyager! I used to watch old episodes with my mum when I was little. 
I wonder if age and when you see things affect that. I mean, two of my favorite childhood shows I love were just silly. Not a bad comparison, mind you. Just letting you know that Voyager was Shakespeare compared to these two shows.
Lost in Space
Batman
Hmm... I watched Voyager when it aired here, so I must have been roughly 18-24 and I rewatched it some years ago, and loved it both times. I only saw the occasional episode of Lost In Space when I was a child, and more when I was in my mid teens. I liked it well enough, and found it entertaining despite it being outdated by then (early to mid 90's). I still occasionally think and even say: "Danger, danger Will Robinson!"

There are shows that I watched in the 80's that some people see as hopelessly dated now, but that I still like. I'm not sure how much of that is when and age, and how much is me liking the content and not having need for impressive CGI and special effects to enjoy it. That's actually an interesting question...
To clarify, I don't mind special effects in any way, I just don't think they necessarily are needed to make a sci fi show great. .
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Skilpadde wrote:
Huh... Are females more likely to like it for some reason, or is that coincidence?
Well, yeah - the captain is a woman. The 90's were pretty awesome that way. Also, the storylines had a very different flavor (can you tell I've started re-watching?).
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Skilpadde wrote:
There are shows that I watched in the 80's that some people see as hopelessly dated now, but that I still like. I'm not sure how much of that is when and age, and how much is me liking the content and not having need for impressive CGI and special effects to enjoy it. That's actually an interesting question...
To clarify, I don't mind special effects in any way, I just don't think they necessarily are needed to make a sci fi show great. .
All mass entertainment as a rule of thumb is hilariously dated just by being 'current' with the times and technology being used. It give it a different look and sound (the tech) a well as the time period stylistics employed. Nio matter how timeless it seems at the time. The time period you see it in will affect it. For instance the special effects of Star Trek (original series) was ground breaking and movies barely did it better. The characters were completely new and bold. And some things, no matter when you see them, when they were made, and sometimes, even the genre, will still snatch your fancy and just shake you around like a dog and his new bone and never let go.To clarify, I don't mind special effects in any way, I just don't think they necessarily are needed to make a sci fi show great. .
Skilpadde wrote:
Well, yeah - the captain is a woman. The 90's were pretty awesome that way. Also, the storylines had a very different flavor (can you tell I've started re-watching?).
I didn't feel they had a different flavor. It felt like they were searching for something to give the show a uniqueness and yet, also be popular with the fans. But, it was still Trek.As dorky as it sounds, I did like one thing with the early material (Kirk and them) and Trek in general, is they used titles in a non-sexist honorific way, yet, Janeway preferred to be addressed using the respectful feminine "Ma'am". That was the most personable thing about her. Not because it was 'old fashioned', but because that difference difference pointed towards individuality yet reverence for her preference to 'buck the trend' so to speak. That little bit of rebel in her if you will. I just thought that such a strong premise and actress was wasted. It did get better, but damn...I really didn't care much about it until about the third year.
Overall, I have real problems with the things Berman and Braga tried to inflict themselves on the Trek brand and it eventually became a muddled mess of continuity and such.
The ending of "Enterprise" was just sad.....
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Edenthiel wrote:
Skilpadde wrote:
Huh... Are females more likely to like it for some reason, or is that coincidence?
Well, yeah - the captain is a woman. The 90's were pretty awesome that way. Also, the storylines had a very different flavor (can you tell I've started re-watching?).
Yeah, I think that "different flavour" is why Voyager is my favourite. Even in comparison to TNG (80s) and DS9 (90s), it stood apart. I like the fact that it focuses so much on the characters' personal lives and experiences, treating them as actual people, as opposed to wooden pawns to be moved around to keep the action plot going (that's kind of how I felt about TOS if I'm honest; we didn't really learn anything deep or meaningful about the characters as people until the movies came out).
TNG is my second-favourite series because of this as well; before watching Voyager, I thought Picard was the best captain, because he was far more three-dimensional than Kirk, who spent all his time blowing up alien life forms and flirting or sleeping with anyone or anything that looked remotely female (including an android specifically programmed to love someone else!)
I like Janeway the best though, because she connected with her crew on a much deeper and more personal level than any of the other captains; she referred to them as family on many occasions, and went out of her way to ensure their wellbeing. I doubt Picard, and know for certain Kirk, wouldn't have sat in a holodeck for sixteen straight hours to keep a hologram in crisis company. The way I like to look at it is this: it took until the very final episode of TNG for Picard to join his bridge officers at their poker game, and we all thought such a "breaking of boundaries" was a massive leap in character development for him. Janeway was in a holographic bar playing pool with her crew by episode two or three of season one.
This depth of character exploration is also why DS9 has always been my least favourite. I'm going to be honest and bear a shameful secret here. I've never actually watched all of DS9. I quit halfway through season three because it couldn't hold my attention and I got sidetracked into starting Voyager, at which point there was no going back! To me, DS9 largely ignored its characters in favour of pushing the "political strife" story arc. Nothing ever seemed to happen except the space station would get dragged into political arguments between the Bajorans and the Cardassians, or the Jem Hadaar and everyone else in the Gamma quadrant, or field religious debates between the Bajoran high council and off-worlders living on the station who didn't want their children brainwashed into believing Bajoran religion.
DS9's characters just seemed flat and one-dimensional as well. Sisko is as wooden as they come, and is, as far as I can tell, utterly devoid of personality. Quark and his perpetual scheming just gets boring and tedious, like watching Wiley Coyote reruns; you know from the first time you see him on screen that his "plot of the week" will fail. I literally cannot stand Kira; she's petulant and whiny, and can't get over the massive hatred she feels for the Cardassians long enough to do any real work. She reminds me of Tasha Yar on TNG. I was so happy when she got killed by the black sludge monster because all she ever did was whine about how hard life on her horrific home planet was. Seven never complained about the fact that she was assimilated when she was six years old and watched both of her parents get murdered by lifeless drones.
Julian just seems like a reincarnation of Kirk; he lusts after and wants to sleep with every female he comes across, except he's not as successful as Kirk was, and just comes across as sad and desperate. Odo is the only character I kind of liked; he reminded me a little of Data, trying hard to fit in with humanity, yet still aware of how different he was. Even he wasn't as well rounded as I would have liked though. I never saw past his gruff, angry mask long enough to get a look at who he really was. His and Quark's constant fighting got old and kind of rubbed me the wrong way too.
However, if anyone has anything to say that might redeem DS9 in my eyes, please tell me, because I really want to like it, otherwise, how can I call myself a real trekkie?!
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