Asperger's and high intelligence-- correlation or not?

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29 Oct 2016, 2:21 pm

racheypie666 wrote:
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I take a somewhat different view. I have come to think that most people possess a roughly equivalent degree of "intelligence" i.e. whatever it is that IQ tests measure, unless there is something clearly wrong with their brain such as damage due to Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, etc.


But if people possess a roughly equivalent degree of whatever it is that IQ tests measure, then why don't they all get roughly equivalent results?


MaxE said most people, not all people.



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29 Oct 2016, 2:26 pm

On this subject, I feel Gardner's notions concerning "multiple intelligences" should be alluded to.

Some people could be mechanical geniuses, yet be relative dunces in the philosophical realm, and vice versa.



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29 Oct 2016, 2:37 pm

starkid wrote:
racheypie666 wrote:
MaxE wrote:
I take a somewhat different view. I have come to think that most people possess a roughly equivalent degree of "intelligence" i.e. whatever it is that IQ tests measure, unless there is something clearly wrong with their brain such as damage due to Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, etc.


But if people possess a roughly equivalent degree of whatever it is that IQ tests measure, then why don't they all get roughly equivalent results?


MaxE said most people, not all people.


So he did, I knew I had misunderstood it but I couldn't see where! What was I saying about intelligence lol :roll:



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29 Oct 2016, 3:01 pm

I think autistic people have better memories; maybe because of the attention to detail that has been mentioned. I don't know about higher intelligence though. I and autistic people I know have made some pretty dumb errors.



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29 Oct 2016, 3:47 pm

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I think autistic people have better memories; maybe because of the attention to detail that has been mentioned. I don't know about higher intelligence though. I and autistic people I know have made some pretty dumb errors.


I think that a fundamental problem with nearly every discussion of intelligence (this one included) is that almost no one ever defines intelligence, not even loosely. I recently read a book about intelligence by Flynn (of the Flynn effect) in which the author defined intelligence by way of a list of traits. Memory was one of those traits.



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30 Oct 2016, 6:58 am

i long thought of IQ tests in general as relatively clumsy attempts at gauging cognitive potential, imbued with the cultural prejudices of the author. the late William Shockley [say of him whatever you like], invented a parlor game IQ tester consisting of a flashing light synced with a brainwave machine and a timer [don't know the specifics of the mechanism] and at his soirees of sophisticates, would "test" various people by sitting them down in front of his mind measuring machine and put a helmet on them and turn on the flashing light. the "smartest" person he tested turned out to be a beautician who spoke 12 languages fluently.



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31 Oct 2016, 7:29 pm

I'll state for the record that intelligence is not just a measurement of words, numbers, abstract reasoning. Rather intelligence varies from person to person also it takes on different from in all people. Basically my numerical score was went from a low 82 to a high of 100 therefore, depending upon what one learns and how the learn material as well, retaining a great deal of said knowledge helps to determine all that you can [b]potentially do within your life.[/b]


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31 Oct 2016, 8:58 pm

I don't think there's necessarily a correlation between Asperger's and high intelligence, what I do think gives that impression to non-aspies is the vast expertise that those on the spectrum display when it comes to their subjects of interest -- especially at a young age..."little professors" can easily seem wise beyond their years.

The amount of energy and focus that aspies divert towards their interests can seem like the focused obsessiveness many successful geniuses will have towards their endeavors.


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01 Nov 2016, 8:49 am

My psychologist, when she met me, she suspected that I had an autistic spectrum, maybe, like Aspeger Syndrome.

But she only told me about it, after she applied IQ (Intelligence quotient) WAIS-III test, in this year. My IQ is 123.

However, I cant say that "I am Asperger". It's just a suspicion.



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02 Nov 2016, 2:39 am

There has not been sufficient study and so nothing but speculation can be done.

I know four people with Aspergers (including myself and we all live outside of America where Aspergers still exists). Three of us have had our IQ's tested and scored above 130 while the 4th is in highschool and if anything he may have the highest (I cannot tell but people with low IQ's drive me crazy and I know he isn't low IQ). So from my own anecdotal experience from a very limited sample pool their is a 100% chance of having a far above average IQ. I think that data is worth less than keyboard missing all its vowels though.

I don't really see what kind of meaningful information can be gained by speculating.