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31 May 2010, 12:53 pm

It was kind of odd--this morning, I ended up in a group of about 10 people that included a 9-year-old boy with HFA and his mother. He pretty much ignored all the other strangers and was playing by himself, but when he saw me he came right up to me and tried to get me to play with him. The first time, he actually scared me because he came up behind me and touched my hands, then ran away. I usually avoid kids, but I liked him. Maybe it was a coincidence that he decided to interact with me and not the others, but it didn't seem like it. What was it that tipped him off, I wonder?

Anybody else had a similar experience with little kids on the spectrum?



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31 May 2010, 1:02 pm

I have. in the kindergarten I was working there was a kid who was always in trouble, always moving and talking a mile a minute and would not play with the other kids. The teacher and other paras did not know what to do with him. As soon as I enterd the class room the kid locked onto me. He would only work with me, He would only want to play, talk and show me all the work he does. I think kids are more tuned into other poeple like them.



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31 May 2010, 1:47 pm

I think there is something in movement, behaviour or stance that can trigger people that recognize it.

In my volunteer work I worked a lot with autistic children and people (a bit ironic for an Aspie). Now when I stand before a group with supposedly 'normal children', I can pick out certain children. A lot of the time other leaders do not like them or think they are strange. When I interact with the children I find they often have certain autistic behaviours, probably I get a feeling for 'seeing it'. The children also seem to bond better with me in half of the cases compared to other leaders, while other leaders are more popular with the rest of the children. There seems to be a certain recognition or it is that autistic people like the behaviour of other auties better.

Luckily I have some success with them, because with other children with problematic behaviour my track record is not that good.



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31 May 2010, 1:56 pm

One of my best friends, I swear, now that I think about it, is on the spectrum (though VERY mildly).



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31 May 2010, 2:06 pm

Asterisp wrote:
I think there is something in movement, behaviour or stance that can trigger people that recognize it.

In my volunteer work I worked a lot with autistic children and people (a bit ironic for an Aspie). Now when I stand before a group with supposedly 'normal children', I can pick out certain children. A lot of the time other leaders do not like them or think they are strange. When I interact with the children I find they often have certain autistic behaviours, probably I get a feeling for 'seeing it'. The children also seem to bond better with me in half of the cases compared to other leaders, while other leaders are more popular with the rest of the children. There seems to be a certain recognition or it is that autistic people like the behaviour of other auties better.

Luckily I have some success with them, because with other children with problematic behaviour my track record is not that good.


I have worked with low functioning autistic people professionally for a while. I did not notice this although I had no major problems ever. Also there were several (low functioning) autistic people who needed to be kept apart from eachother for the sake of peace and their health, they obviously did not like the behaviour of their fellow autie.

I have experienced something like you on sunday school where I had two pdd nos kids in my group. I got along with them better than the other leaders whereas nt kids clearly preferred others :)

But gaydar is something else.



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31 May 2010, 2:29 pm

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I have experienced something like you on sunday school where I had two pdd nos kids in my group. I got along with them better than the other leaders whereas nt kids clearly preferred others :)

But gaydar is something else.

That was the first part of my post, seeing kids in a group and picking out certain individuals. (or we use different definitions)

The second part of my post was meant as a possible theory, but it has some flaws obviously.



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31 May 2010, 2:31 pm

Autdar :D



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31 May 2010, 2:41 pm

Oh yeah, there's a radar for similar people. I think it's clouded by the intellect in adults, but it's still there. I was working as an audio schlep one time at this huge charity dinner for a local home for developmentally disabled adults. The disabled people were there, too, and one of them looked right at me as I was passing and waved enthusiastically, with a big smile on his face, as if he knew me. I smiled and waved back automatically because I was distracted, but it sunk in a moment later that the guy identified with me.

Later on, they - the disabled adults - were briefly paraded on the dance floor. They appeared to be enjoying themselves, but I was poignantly aware of how they were kind of being exploited. The band leader, who I guess knew something about social rejection since he was bald, said "it sucks to be dyslexic." I looked at him, failing to veil my anger, and he gave me a wink.



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31 May 2010, 3:10 pm

Cuterebra wrote:
It was kind of odd--this morning, I ended up in a group of about 10 people that included a 9-year-old boy with HFA and his mother. He pretty much ignored all the other strangers and was playing by himself, but when he saw me he came right up to me and tried to get me to play with him. The first time, he actually scared me because he came up behind me and touched my hands, then ran away. I usually avoid kids, but I liked him. Maybe it was a coincidence that he decided to interact with me and not the others, but it didn't seem like it. What was it that tipped him off, I wonder?

Anybody else had a similar experience with little kids on the spectrum?


Maybe it was what you didn't do. Maybe you didn't use agressive body language or attempt to make eye contact. You may have seemed safe to him.

I had an Autie boy run up, check my name tag, put his hands on my shoulders, and give me a big, but very polite hug. It made my day. I wanted to talk to him, but duh, he didn't want that. I was so happy that he liked me.



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31 May 2010, 3:14 pm

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I have. in the kindergarten I was working there was a kid who was always in trouble, always moving and talking a mile a minute and would not play with the other kids. The teacher and other paras did not know what to do with him. As soon as I enterd the class room the kid locked onto me. He would only work with me, He would only want to play, talk and show me all the work he does. I think kids are more tuned into other poeple like them.


Yup. I am a substitute teacher. When I work with the little guys the "special" ones, whether it's ASDs or other issues, always gravitate to me, and I enjoy them too. Sometimes the older ones are more standoffish, having had more bad experiences I expect. When I worked with the ASD kids at my son's school (he's in a high functioning Aspie program, but they have all sorts of Aspie/Autie programs going on and I wasn't in his) I heard later that they all wanted me to come back and enjoyed me, even though they didn't all warm up right away. Unfortunately it creeped out my son and I had to promise not to teach there as long as he is a student there.



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31 May 2010, 3:25 pm

I think people naturally are able to pick out people who are similar to themselves. It makes sense.



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31 May 2010, 3:47 pm

I was spazzing out at Ikea and pretty sure I was flapping and making wierd mouth noises...and I noticed a sort of ASish person seem to sort of notice me, but I am not sure what it was that made me think that he was ASish..other than a posture thing...



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31 May 2010, 4:44 pm

Our 8th sense.


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31 May 2010, 9:30 pm

Thanks for all your responses! Kiley--he gave me the nicest, warmest smile that lasted just for a second. Lagniappe. I actually smiled back at him, a real smile instead of the usual plastic fake one that looks more like a grimace, and I don't even like kids.

It's very interesting to think about this in light of the diagnostic criteria, don't you think?



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31 May 2010, 10:03 pm

Asterisp wrote:
I think there is something in movement, behaviour or stance that can trigger people that recognize it.

In my volunteer work I worked a lot with autistic children and people (a bit ironic for an Aspie). Now when I stand before a group with supposedly 'normal children', I can pick out certain children. A lot of the time other leaders do not like them or think they are strange. When I interact with the children I find they often have certain autistic behaviours, probably I get a feeling for 'seeing it'. The children also seem to bond better with me in half of the cases compared to other leaders, while other leaders are more popular with the rest of the children. There seems to be a certain recognition or it is that autistic people like the behaviour of other auties better.

Luckily I have some success with them, because with other children with problematic behaviour my track record is not that good.


I think it's good being on the spectrum like you and helping out autistic children. Sometimes those smug academics and medical professions with all their phD's think they know more of what it's like to be an aspie than the aspies themselves! 8)



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31 May 2010, 10:19 pm

My friends have made comments about how "strange" people are attracted to me like a lightning rod. They always go ohoh here come anotherone when someone walks up to me. Crazy homeless seem to home in on me too. I guess they know something I do not.