This song scared me

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the song is 'Sheep go to Heaven' by Cake

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0mx5ERj1eI[/youtube]

If I dident know better ide say this song was saying 'unsociable folk who dont go to parties, kill folk and go to hell'

We have had a few mass killings that ended with suicide-by-cop this year, and I do not think the "Sheep go to heaven, goats go to hell" demonstrates much understanding of their situations. I suppose a period of unsociability and a psychotic break is common enough, but most unsociable people and most psychotic people don't kill. Our latest mass killer is the complete opposite - hugely popular and charismatic, to the point that friends provided additional weaponry during his killing spree.

yeah i dont think the song was trying to offend me

Social isolation is a risk factor for mental illness. It doesn't mean that all loners, or even the vast majority will ever do anything illegal. I also don't know if there's been any research done to show whether isolation causes mental illness or vice versa.

I think stereotypes and sayings like 'it's always the quiet ones' only serve to further isolate shy people from communities.

edit: cute animation though. I can't wait for the parodies

Hmmm. I actually thought that video was pretty funny.

I actually thought the music video actually scared me, I thought that was pretty awesome, especially the subtitles.
It looks like a song you could pretty much sing to.

It can be involved in mental illness but mental illness is rarely involved in actual violent or illegal activity.

I have this CD somewhere but I haven't listened to it in AGES. Never seen the music video though. I do think it's pretty funny. Poor poodle T___T I can see how you had an issue with it, though, because to be honest the general theme was a little bothersome, and the idea a bit unnerving. The irony is a bit amusing though.

Yeah ive listened to it more and decided its not actualy saying that 'Lonely people are bad' its saying that theres no point trying not to fit in and be in a mood for the sake of it, and if you do decide to do that dont hurt people because they do.

its probably a response to all these people going on about how 'conformist' everyone is.

Am I a sheep, or a goat?

That song makes me feel a little uneasy, as well. The message that I got, is that you have to conform, to go to heaven.

Im a duck

Stastically, there is a slightly higher risk of violence, especially in psychotic disorders, but overall, yeah, it usually isn't.

The latest suicide-by-cop killer (Raoul Moat) now has a Facebook tribute page with a massive following and people are placing flowers at his home and in the spot of his fatal final confrontation with police http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-10633297 which is all very weird.

I would like to understand such events, but I don't, and I don't think the songwriters did either.

I really need to watch the news more, I looked it up and appareantly, Moat was mentally ill and that means HES the victim (Du Hast). Its rediculous, nothing is anyones fault anymore.

The way I see it, Moat (and the character in Sheep go to Heaven) made a choice, mentally ill or not, that most people do not make, even in the same circumstances. I don't see a problem in judging that choice as being a bad one, or his fault. The part that is really missing in these events is how to identify the factors that lead to violent choices, how to intervene to prevent violence, how to identify and help the people who might go posto.

I don't see any trigger factors in the song and video, apart from loneliness.

(And the people paying tribute to Moat are sick).