Asked the priest why God made aspie people

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02 Nov 2010, 3:53 pm

:( He said that we were made for a purpose to show peolpe that they should be grateful for what God has given them, because they could of been aspie but God choose them to be normal and correct. He basically said that we were the children of the devil i guess. Got me down



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02 Nov 2010, 3:55 pm

Your priest is dumb.

The real reason there are aspies is we live in a fallen cursed world, so nothing is perfect. I'm surprised the idiot didn't think of that.
'Children of the Devil' doesn't even come into it.



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02 Nov 2010, 3:57 pm

That priest is a freaking douchebag. Someone should punch him.


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02 Nov 2010, 4:00 pm

The reason 'God created Aspies' is to provide a group from which some of the worlds greatest minds would arise, to give NT mankind some of it's greatest advances in scientific and technological understanding.

Your priest doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

I suggest you print off a list of great thinkers and field leaders who were thought to be or are Aspies and show it to him then ask him if he still thinks God just created Aspies as some kind of unfortunates so that the NTs could feel all superior and "blessed" not to be Aspie.

Grrr.

PS. You could also print off this thread and say I asked you to give it to him.



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02 Nov 2010, 4:02 pm

Please inform your priest that the reason God made him was so that I could be grateful not to be him.

The real reason is that God created us to diversify and strengthen the human race as a whole.


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02 Nov 2010, 4:05 pm

Or perhaps there is no god that created us. We are simply a product of a few slipped genes here and there, giving us some disadvantages in a very social society. However our minds are ripe for the use of the sciences, where we find real answers other than "god did it".



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02 Nov 2010, 4:12 pm

Ask him how he feels believe that he is a monotheist but still having minor deities like angels. :lol:


Sorry, that is innappropriate, yet if there is a god or a goddess (or a genderless god) who has a created us, it is the genes and sometimes the environment that make people be more or less "normal".

However, if you want to contradict him, tell him that you have tought about it and that you think that he created Autism so that there would be some of his autistic creations to make the world better thanks to their logical mind. :roll:



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02 Nov 2010, 4:15 pm

God made Aspies to provide proof that priests can be real idiots.



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02 Nov 2010, 4:20 pm

I'm confused, you go to church? Last I remember, you made a thread asking who here believed in God, with a slant against the belief in God. Secondly, you were previously creating threads intended to incite NT-hate in Aspies here. Did you really ask the priest about this?

People can be really intolerant, but I highly doubt a priest would answer that way. I'm sure a typical priest would first have to ask what an Aspie is, out of ignorance, and then have a hard time answering that - and the answer would probably pertain to how Aspies are different, and thus have purposes in life that can only be fulfilled like Aspies and not NT's. Or something like that...

The only time a priest is likely to answer as intolerantly as you describe, is when the priest is ultra-conservative and is being asked about homosexuals or other-religious people.

About the question itself, if there is an answer, it likely pertains to variety/diversity.



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02 Nov 2010, 4:22 pm

What a weird thing for him to say. I once asked a similar question of my Bishop when I was trying to be a good little Mormon. I was told that each person is given a set of trials, and those with disabilities were given them so they could learn to rise above them. I then asked about the parents of disabled children, and he said parents are often given disabled children to teach them to be more compassionate and understanding.


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02 Nov 2010, 4:28 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
What a weird thing for him to say. I once asked a similar question of my Bishop when I was trying to be a good little Mormon. I was told that each person is given a set of trials, and those with disabilities were given them so they could learn to rise above them. I then asked about the parents of disabled children, and he said parents are often given disabled children to teach them to be more compassionate and understanding.


And this is more of the type of answer I was expecting the OP had gotten. Or maybe that everyone has a purpose, and some of those purposes are less obvious than others, and over time each person comes to understand theirs, but that this conversation isn't really knowable to a 3rd party like a priest. And so on. There are so many reasonable possible explanations, I don't know why the OP's priest had to come up with a such a condescending one.


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02 Nov 2010, 4:29 pm

That's like saying that the only purpose of baboons is to show the other primates how they should be grateful for not being so red-butted, long nosed or grey.

It would be funny if it wasn't so darn sad.



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02 Nov 2010, 4:31 pm

Seems to me the priest has some major prejudices and thanks god every day that he's not 'broken'.


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02 Nov 2010, 4:34 pm

Lots of people involved in the Church know nothing. When I was a child I asked them what happens to babies when they die and I was laughed at, of course they go to Heaven they say, and led to the exit with no explanation.

I don't even see how current organized religions are compatible to someone autistic at all. They're based on empathetic and social support (the attendance of Church), no concrete facts or data, wide differing interpretations, no evidence, etc. I'm rather astounded someone autistic would participate with an organized religion.



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02 Nov 2010, 4:38 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
What a weird thing for him to say. I once asked a similar question of my Bishop when I was trying to be a good little Mormon. I was told that each person is given a set of trials, and those with disabilities were given them so they could learn to rise above them. I then asked about the parents of disabled children, and he said parents are often given disabled children to teach them to be more compassionate and understanding.


My mom was a Mormon when I was born. She asked her bishop the same thing, and was told something similar, that she had an important duty to fulfill in God's eyes. The problem in her ward wasn't the bishop per se, but all the jerks who behind her back said that she had been "less valiant" in the War in Heaven and was being punished. It's one thing for a layperson to be bigoted, it's quite another when the preacher is bigoted. Any church has its share of hateful clergy, and the Mormons seem to get a lot of them, since they draft lay members into the clergy.



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02 Nov 2010, 4:48 pm

How much of this did the priest actually say?
How much is bias from how you decided to interpret the conversation and summarize it here?

I'm not religious and don't meet many priests, but this just doesn't seem to ring true , based on what I do know of their speech.

Also the jump to being children of the devil, and the choice of a pentagram as an avatar, are both confusing.