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17 Aug 2012, 2:37 pm

i have noticed that most of my anxietys go away when i have a little more freedom w/ my spending, i still think the same way and have a bad handle on non-verbal cues, and facal reconition skills. but i was out 2 nights ago and started laughing out loud w/ my friends at the thought(they had no idea, and are used to it). i laughed the same when i saw the" i'm not an a-hole, i'm autistic"

do you notice that the more you have finance borders, you have more anxiety and shut downs?


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17 Aug 2012, 3:06 pm

Yes, this is true of everybody. I've always said that without the stresses that come with financial restrictions, things like autism would never exist in the first place.



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17 Aug 2012, 3:32 pm

I think what you're describing is subjective. I have, effectively, no borders because I don't need to buy much and as such never run out of money, but I'm still riddled with anxiety (then again, I don't have friends like you do and I'd feel miserable in a group even if I had unlimited finances).

Although, yes, if only money can make anxiety go away...



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17 Aug 2012, 5:16 pm

I get enough SSI to pay my bills and to pay for other necessities, also. I am not into blowing my money on wild spending, so I do okay. However, I still have Asperger's. Having money to pay for needed things doesn't get rid of my sensory issues, my mental processing issues, my social issues, etc. I still have these problems. Autism spectrum disorders are a neurological condition present from birth. One of the traits, or perhaps side effects of this condition is a tendency to be easily over whelmed and over stressed. Having enough money to pay for needed things reduces some of the stress levels, so yes, you will feel somewhat better when money isn't too tight, but it doesn't cure the Autism.

In my case I was also able to reduce my stress levels even more when I was finally able to live alone a few years ago. People, and especially family, are my biggest stress trigger, so living alone has been a big help.



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17 Aug 2012, 5:25 pm

I'd probably be more able to cope with things if I had unlimited/vastly increased spending power. I could pursue my interests as much as I liked, I could totally soundproof my house, I could pay someone to drive me places when I didn't feel able to myself/when I needed to leave right now because of feeling uncomfortable. The list goes on. Even when I've just had more money than I do now I've been able to make more accomodations in my life which allowed me to get by a little easier. So yes I find the same thing as you OP. I don't think the effect is being "less autistic" or anything, just that you can do things to make life easier to cope with when you have increased spending power.



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17 Aug 2012, 5:25 pm

I get anxiety if our money runs low or if we have less income. I fear going paycheck to paycheck and refuse to add more bills and that is why I don't go out much. That was why I was having such a hard time this year when my husband wasn't working because we only had my income so I felt poor. So I had more anxiety and more shut downs and my obsessions got stronger and it made things harder for me. Then when temporary disability kicked in, it took stress off me but it took a while for me to feel normal again.


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17 Aug 2012, 5:42 pm

<--- Autistic and broke.



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17 Aug 2012, 6:04 pm

hmm, still had AS even when i made more than i wanted to use, then again i have never been the bigges of spenders, at least not on things that dont serve a specific function.


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17 Aug 2012, 6:47 pm

Mindslave wrote:
Yes, this is true of everybody. I've always said that without the stresses that come with financial restrictions, things like autism would never exist in the first place.


Um if thats true please explain to me why Bill Gates (the aspie owner of Microsoft) has been observed to stim during his business meetings.



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17 Aug 2012, 6:59 pm

Living paycheck to paycheck, with a chronic illness. And autism (probably) thrown in for the fun of it.

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17 Aug 2012, 7:19 pm

This topic comes at a good time for me. I'm currently in one of those phases where I feel more ADHD (my actual Dx) than aspie since I'm not having very severe MDs over money and the issues that tie in. But as soon as my vehicle breaks down and I won't have the $5 to spare for the part it needs, meaning certain doom to be completely stuck at home with no escape from my family, then you can consider me a candidate for Rain Man 2


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22 Aug 2012, 9:36 am

thomas81 wrote:
Mindslave wrote:
Yes, this is true of everybody. I've always said that without the stresses that come with financial restrictions, things like autism would never exist in the first place.


Um if thats true please explain to me why Bill Gates (the aspie owner of Microsoft) has been observed to stim during his business meetings.

nice point, i would have to say it would be soical anxiety.
i would never say money cures it, but(and i know ofcourse less things to worry about would let anyone relax more) it is amazing how much more i don't worry about my sourrondings if i have less to worry about.it has been 4+yrs. that i went into my introverted phase, and i almost forgot how much i do love soicalizing. but when i shut down it is very hard. this time around was made worse when i was slowly coming out of this phase(3yrs. ago) and my brother died, i didn't want to see anyone. outside of work, family and a lady friend, i didn't see anyone.


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22 Aug 2012, 10:18 am

I think what you're seeing is anxiety impairing your ability to cope with your autism. Make no mistake: You're still autistic. Money isn't going to cure anything. But now that you see the difference, you can begin to realize just how much impairment is not due to autism, but to a co-occurring anxiety disorder. I think many autistics don't realize that--they put all their social problems and self-care problems down to their autism, when really a lot of it is anxiety.


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22 Aug 2012, 11:48 am

When I have money, my anxiety goes WAAAYYY down. But that is extremely rare. I don't understand money probably because i've never had much of it, and that unknown leaves me with a lot of fear such that even though I technically could learn about money, the thought of sitting down to try to makes me feel like my tonsils just dropped down into my stomach. It looks like no one's ever going to help me out with this. but at least I'm alive and I get by.



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22 Aug 2012, 12:39 pm

I wonder if it's an autism thing to need money to function better because you have less anxiety that way. Or is it just a coincidence?


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