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What is your opinion to me (Cant get a doctor) Long storey
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04 Sep 2011, 8:19 pm

Worning: if anything dosent make scents its the dragon program im useing i just didnt see what it did sorry.

when I was younger I never really knew anything about this but I do know at the age of seven I would tence up my whole body people would ask me to stop when I just had to do it.
That could have been anything people considered it to be my autism and a stimm.
when I got older about around in high school I couldn't stop moving my shoulder I heard it because I always wore my bag on one side of my shoulder. but then it became some kind of problem because I realized I had to do it over it was something I couldn't stop because I did it one time my mind wanted me to do it again it became a problem people would notice me doing strange shoulder movements they would look at me every now and then it was embarrassing. Then I would repeat stuff I would see other people doing sometimes I wouldn't realize that others I would but I just had to do it one of the first things was a pencil I had to move it around in my fingers teachers considered it being nervous. But I couldn't stop. Then there was movement I did ever since I was a child that was never a problem before. But it became obsessed of movements when everything started I couldn't understand why am I still can't. I began like tapping my foot on the ground.
Or shaking my leg up and down normally I could stop it was nothing well it used to be because when it started up with all the other stuff just the same I had to do it. I began annoying teachers they looked at me like I was being rude and even my special ed teachers would tell me to stop I literally remember thinking to myself okay I'll stop and that's what I told them even though even I knew inside I couldn't I began holding it in a no really remember what would happen after it would come back though. I got older I began not doing things around people so much I actually didn't realize I stopped that the only thing I did around people with the shoulder movements I don't know if somehow I just stoped in my own mind. Or if i got embarrassed and did not realize I stopped.
But I also know a began thinking about it less because so much was on my mind of teachers being mad at me.
My thinking would start up again and got home I began doing it I don't do this in public but at home I seem to look at the TV and say random words or do other movements i saw.
Like finger movements throwing my body back on something.
Or doing some strange sound. reserching it didnt help because the more i did that the more stuff i did...and saw.
-.- is this OCD AUTISM or does it sound like tourettes syndrome btw only i know this i hide it from familey
if they were to know theyed deny it. [edit deta



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04 Sep 2011, 10:06 pm

I'm not sure what it is but a doctor could tell you. The conditions you've named all seem to share the common thread of compulsiveness. It doesn't sound like something to worry about necessarily unless it interferes with your life significantly.



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04 Sep 2011, 10:26 pm

I am not sure how much that interferes with your functioning but I tend to have difficulties staying still if I am concentrating or trying to pay attention in my college classes. When I read I tend to be fidgeting with the other page usually I am not really aware of when I am doing that but if I concentrate on not doing it then I won't understand what I am reading because I'll be focused on that.

I also might fidget with a pencil, or if I am wearing anything on my arms I will fidget with them....and there are pleanty of other exaples of things like that I do. I don't really feel I 'have' to....but I don't really have control over it either and am not even fully aware of it untill someone points it out.

As for teachers and stuff telling you to stop, I had that a lot to....and even if I had every intention of stopping that would not happen so of coure sometimes they tried to act like I was just being difficult. They also did not like that I counted on my fingers in math...not sure why its hard for me to do it all in my head and that helps me keep track even my parents thought it was ridiculous of them to complain about that.



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04 Sep 2011, 10:31 pm

All of my autism related stims CAN be stopped. I have a few minor tics that I CANNOT control. I have never formally been diagnosed with TS, but I wouldn't be surprised if I had it very mildly (age of onset of these tics was around 13). Perhaps not ALL tics are actually TS, but uncontrollable movements--while they can occur in conjunction with autism--are not a direct symptom of autism either. I don't think mine are OCD. I suppose they could be for some people, but not sure.


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05 Sep 2011, 4:20 am

Tourettes would only be diagnosed if you had vocal tics as well. You might fit a diagnosis of 'motor tic disorder' though because it does sound like you are having tics. These are not related to OCD although my Tourettes comes with OCD. It sounds like your tics are just irritating rather than life changing because mine interfere with my enjoyment of life, so you probably don't need medication. Medication makes most people with tics feel quite unwell anyway, so it's best to avoid it if you can live with the tics. I can't live with my tics, but the side-effects of the medication are so bad I can't take it! Long story short; don't panic, you are not going mad or anything (which is what I thought when I first started to tic) and if it gets to the point where it is wrecking your life, then go and see a doctor.


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05 Sep 2011, 3:09 pm

Jellybean wrote:
Tourettes would only be diagnosed if you had vocal tics as well.


I never realized this. What counts as a vocal tic? Does it have to be a word or any sound made from the vocal chords?


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05 Sep 2011, 3:12 pm

Nevermind, just found the answer to it myself:

The vocal tics include various words or sounds such as clicks, grunts, yelps, barks, sniffs, snorts, and coughs.


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05 Sep 2011, 3:14 pm

And here is some info on motor tic disorder. I think this could be what I have (though this is my own speculation):

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency ... 000745.htm


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05 Sep 2011, 3:14 pm

littlelily613 wrote:
Jellybean wrote:
Tourettes would only be diagnosed if you had vocal tics as well.


I never realized this. What counts as a vocal tic? Does it have to be a word or any sound made from the vocal chords?


Yeah, with only motor tics or only vocal tics it would be another form of a tic disorder, not Tourette's. And there are also things about how long the tics have been occurring and stuff that have to be factored into the diagnosis.
More common vocal tics are grunting, throat clearing, etc.; whole word tics, despite all the media attention directed their way, aren't as common.

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Diagnostic criteria for 307.23 Tourette's Disorder

A. Both multiple motor and one or more vocal tics have been present at some time during the illness, although not necessarily concurrently. (A tic is a sudden, rapid, recurrent, nonrhythmic, stereotyped motor movement or vocalization)



B. The tics occur many times a day (usually in bouts) nearly every day or intermittently throughout a period of more than 1 year, and during this period there was never a tic-free period of more than 3 consecutive months.



C. The disturbance causes marked distress or significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning

C. The onset is before age 18 years.

D. The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., stimulants) or a general medical condition (e.g.. Huntington's disease or postviral encephalitis).



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05 Sep 2011, 3:19 pm

jmnixon95 wrote:
littlelily613 wrote:
Jellybean wrote:
Tourettes would only be diagnosed if you had vocal tics as well.


I never realized this. What counts as a vocal tic? Does it have to be a word or any sound made from the vocal chords?


Yeah, with only motor tics or only vocal tics it would be another form of a tic disorder, not Tourette's. And there are also things about how long the tics have been occurring and stuff that have to be factored into the diagnosis.
More common vocal tics are grunting, throat clearing, etc.; whole word tics, despite all the media attention directed their way, aren't as common.

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Diagnostic criteria for 307.23 Tourette's Disorder

A. Both multiple motor and one or more vocal tics have been present at some time during the illness, although not necessarily concurrently. (A tic is a sudden, rapid, recurrent, nonrhythmic, stereotyped motor movement or vocalization)



B. The tics occur many times a day (usually in bouts) nearly every day or intermittently throughout a period of more than 1 year, and during this period there was never a tic-free period of more than 3 consecutive months.



C. The disturbance causes marked distress or significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning

C. The onset is before age 18 years.

D. The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., stimulants) or a general medical condition (e.g.. Huntington's disease or postviral encephalitis).


Thank you! I was looking for a list of criteria like that!


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05 Sep 2011, 3:21 pm

littlelily613 wrote:
jmnixon95 wrote:
littlelily613 wrote:
Jellybean wrote:
Tourettes would only be diagnosed if you had vocal tics as well.


I never realized this. What counts as a vocal tic? Does it have to be a word or any sound made from the vocal chords?


Yeah, with only motor tics or only vocal tics it would be another form of a tic disorder, not Tourette's. And there are also things about how long the tics have been occurring and stuff that have to be factored into the diagnosis.
More common vocal tics are grunting, throat clearing, etc.; whole word tics, despite all the media attention directed their way, aren't as common.

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Diagnostic criteria for 307.23 Tourette's Disorder

A. Both multiple motor and one or more vocal tics have been present at some time during the illness, although not necessarily concurrently. (A tic is a sudden, rapid, recurrent, nonrhythmic, stereotyped motor movement or vocalization)



B. The tics occur many times a day (usually in bouts) nearly every day or intermittently throughout a period of more than 1 year, and during this period there was never a tic-free period of more than 3 consecutive months.



C. The disturbance causes marked distress or significant impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning

C. The onset is before age 18 years.

D. The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., stimulants) or a general medical condition (e.g.. Huntington's disease or postviral encephalitis).


Thank you! I was looking for a list of criteria like that!


No problem. It's certainly a lot harder to obtain a TS diagnosis than the public portrays it to be. Though I don't have it, I went through a spree of about three months where I was rather interested in it and learned about it and how it actually affects people.



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08 Sep 2011, 8:24 am

I was pretty sure they later changed the criteria of the DSM-IV in the DSM-IV-TR because there were doubts about the validity or usefulness of the "causes marked distress or significant impairment" criterion.

Ah, they did, here:

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A. Both multiple motor and one or more vocal tics have been present at some time during the illness, although not necessarily concurrently. (A tic is a sudden, rapid, recurrent, nonrhythmic, stereotyped motor movement or vocalization.)

B. The tics occur many times a day (usually in bouts) nearly every day or intermittently throughout a period of more than 1 year, and during this period there was never a tic-free period of more than 3 consecutive months.

C. The onset is before age 18 years.

D. The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., stimulants) or a general medical condition (e.g., Huntington’s disease or postviral encephalitis).


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