If people with Asperger's dictated the social rules...

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18 Oct 2011, 7:50 am

I have been thinking about this lately... if people with Asperger's could be "in charge of" the social rules what would the rules be? I am thinking along the lines of an imaginary situation where people with Asperger's would be most comfortable. I have read a lot about the struggles of people with Asperger's or High Functioning Autism fitting into the "typical" world, but I would like to look at it from the other way around --- the "typical" world fitting into the Aspergers' world. I am the parent of a child with Asperger's and just trying to look at things from a different perspective.



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18 Oct 2011, 8:02 am

Rule number one: Staring at people directly in the pupils is as rude as staring at boobs or crotches, please refrain.



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18 Oct 2011, 8:06 am

Oh this is an interesting thread :) .

Some rules I've come up with may not be for everybody here, I just made these up from personal experiences. This would help those Aspies who are shy/phobic/unsure of social interaction a better chance!

-Give shy people a better chance in social situations, make them feel included, a shy person doesn't mean an unfriendly person. So sometimes if you give a shy, unconfident-looking person a chance, it can go a long way, and you're more than likely to make friends with them.

-When the person is complaining, don't yell, ''oh stop moaning!'' because they are just trying to express how they're feeling about something what bothers them. You will be a better friend if you just listen to them.

-Don't criticise what the person likes. If the person collects Disney films, so what? Just say, ''oh that's nice'', or if you don't like Disney films just say, ''I don't watch Disney films myself'', then perhaps say what you like to collect (if anything).

-Don't stare at anyone in the street. It makes them feel just as uncomfortable as it would make you feel.


Can't think of any more at the moment.


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18 Oct 2011, 8:13 am

There would be no need to say hi or bye, or bother with any superficial social small talk.
People would just be straight to the point all the time and get much more done as a result.
Social situations would be highly efficient, there would be less jokes, no sarcasm, no faux pass.
No one would take offence, or exclude others, people would just walk away if they were bored, or join a different more interesting discussion, or sit and talk to themselves if no-one was interested.


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18 Oct 2011, 8:20 am

Sharkgirl wrote:
There would be no need to say hi or bye, or bother with any superficial social small talk.
People would just be straight to the point all the time and get much more done as a result.
Social situations would be highly efficient, there would be less jokes, no sarcasm, no faux pass.
No one would take offence, or exclude others, people would just walk away if they were bored, or join a different more interesting discussion, or sit and talk to themselves if no-one was interested.


Wow, imagining a world like this, how relaxing would that be!
Logic would rule the world, people's egos would stop interfering with their thinking, and everyone could just have a conversation, without fear .



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18 Oct 2011, 8:23 am

ediself wrote:
Sharkgirl wrote:
There would be no need to say hi or bye, or bother with any superficial social small talk.
People would just be straight to the point all the time and get much more done as a result.
Social situations would be highly efficient, there would be less jokes, no sarcasm, no faux pass.
No one would take offence, or exclude others, people would just walk away if they were bored, or join a different more interesting discussion, or sit and talk to themselves if no-one was interested.


Wow, imagining a world like this, how relaxing would that be!
Logic would rule the world, people's egos would stop interfering with their thinking, and everyone could just have a conversation, without fear .

Indeed. I think it would be pretty nice. I'm sure there'd be much less social anxiety were it all set up this way!


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18 Oct 2011, 8:30 am

Everyone would be required to turn down the volume
and stop acting like a bull in a china shop.



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18 Oct 2011, 8:34 am

I love the responses so far. Thanks for contributing. I have another question to add... what would an Aspie's definition of the perfect friend, companion, and/or partner be?



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18 Oct 2011, 9:27 am

Jcedar wrote:
I love the responses so far. Thanks for contributing. I have another question to add... what would an Aspie's definition of the perfect friend, companion, and/or partner be?


Someone who will stick with you always, no matter what you do, and who will give you as much attention as you give them.


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18 Oct 2011, 9:47 am

Make everything direct.

For example, when meeting new people, ask them if they are comfortable in starting a conversation. Also, tell others when you start to feel "overwhelmed" and wish to be left alone.

Say what you mean to say. Anytime sarcasm is used it must me in that typical "sarcastic tone" (remember to roll your eyes up too :lol:)



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18 Oct 2011, 10:09 am

Jcedar wrote:
I love the responses so far. Thanks for contributing. I have another question to add... what would an Aspie's definition of the perfect friend, companion, and/or partner be?

Someone who would always give you the benefit of the doubt when they've been hurt by something you said, and would take the time and effort to clarify their intent too. Someone who would be curious about your interests. Someone who would have interests of their own to teach you about.
Specifically about companions: sweet, caring, gentle, intelligent, appreciative,receptive and giving in the bedroom :D



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18 Oct 2011, 11:34 am

I honestly don't give it much thought beyond the point when I realize that if we as Autistics formed the rules, we would be asking those that have certain abilities we do not have, not to use them.

What if the deaf made the rules?

To think of it in terms of changing the rules for everyone, all the time, I don't see much potential benefit.

Now if we were to think of it as a training method for professionals dealing with Autistics, guided by Autistics, I can see a ton of beneficial outcomes from that.

It would be tricky though, because of how different each one of is. There is so much variety in our strengths and deficits, anyone taking the training would also have to learn how to identify exactly how each one of their "charges" ticks.

It would be much harder to do than simply, say, putting in a set of ear plugs, because it would require imagining whatever deficits an Autistic might have.

It could become a pretty complex training style, but I bet it would be a really valuable thing to consider and really do something about!


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18 Oct 2011, 11:52 am

I thought I would share a few rules my son (an Aspie) would say...

No one could ever call you by anything other than your given name. (He seems to take issue with people calling him by any sort of nickname even if it is intended as a term of endearment.)

The preference for all social interactions would be via a computer interface or through a video game of some sort.

Spontaneous exploration and research on interesting topics would take priority over keeping to any daily routine.

There would be no "social filter" for conversations that do take place... it would be completely ok to ask anything or speak at length about whatever topic interests him regardless of if he is talking to a complete stranger or someone he has met before.



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18 Oct 2011, 12:25 pm

There would be NO small talk! :D



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18 Oct 2011, 12:39 pm

[quote="Jcedar"]No one could ever call you by anything other than your given name. (He seems to take issue with people calling him by any sort of nickname even if it is intended as a term of endearment.)

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What is that? My son is totally the same way. and...I can tell him all day that he is the best thing in this world, and he means more to me than life itself, but I can't use the "L" word. In his world, no kissing and no love. You can hug all day.



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13 Feb 2012, 9:30 am

ediself wrote:
Sharkgirl wrote:
There would be no need to say hi or bye, or bother with any superficial social small talk.
People would just be straight to the point all the time and get much more done as a result.
Social situations would be highly efficient, there would be less jokes, no sarcasm, no faux pass.
No one would take offence, or exclude others, people would just walk away if they were bored, or join a different more interesting discussion, or sit and talk to themselves if no-one was interested.


Wow, imagining a world like this, how relaxing would that be!
Logic would rule the world, people's egos would stop interfering with their thinking, and everyone could just have a conversation, without fear .


This sounds good to me as well. I would love to be able to talk about things without being told it is inappropriate or fear of reprisal.