Aspergers - refusal to accept the world

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28 Jun 2012, 9:23 am

Here's my theory. We aspergers at first take real world materials and then convert them to thoughts while NT's have a real connection with world, thats why they're not always good at logics, but understand things based on their experience. I think we just don't want to accept the inequality of this world, because we are all born under different circumstanses, some people are born more beautiful or wealthier, so we aspies think from another point of view to make the world more fair.



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28 Jun 2012, 10:10 am

I think this is too broad and oversimplifies a lot. How do you connect this rhetoric with the concrete aspects of aspergers behavior?


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28 Jun 2012, 10:16 am

Well is it our refusal to accept the world, or the worlds refusal to accept us that leads to our refusal of the world or I would specify society in my case as I am fine with the world just not so much the societies in it.


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28 Jun 2012, 10:23 am

wish I could remember where I read it but some one said something along the lines of people with aspergers understand things logically when others understand them intuitively. Not sure if it really applies to everyone with AS but it made sense to me and how I am. Things that a lot of people pick up intuitively I have to look at, process and contemplate before I understand them.



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28 Jun 2012, 10:36 am

IDK.. I think that's slightly oversimplified.. Ok, majorly.. I think many of us do actually accept inequality; we realize we are different from them in a pretty fundamental way, and some may be resentful, but that's prolly more a resentment of things that can't be changed quickly or at all, such as how we are seen by society, or the fact that we have anything "wrong" at all.. just my opinion, I could very easily be wrong (that's how I feel about it, at any rate)


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28 Jun 2012, 10:40 am

jonny23 wrote:
wish I could remember where I read it but some one said something along the lines of people with aspergers understand things logically when others understand them intuitively. Not sure if it really applies to everyone with AS but it made sense to me and how I am. Things that a lot of people pick up intuitively I have to look at, process and contemplate before I understand them.


Well now I am really confused........I seem to understand things both ways. Though maybe what I call intuition isen't quite that, what I mean by that is I can kind of sense things. Like if I walk into a room and people are mad at each other but I don't know this I can feel the tension. And a few times I have gotten feelings to get out of an area or avoid someone that turned out to be correct. Only flaw is sometimes I get those feelings for no reason but its hard to tell the difference from when it's actually an indication of something.


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28 Jun 2012, 10:45 am

Yea, that's why I said it makes sense to me and the way I am but I'm not sure if it's true. I still get the feelings your talking about but more often than not I have to think something out, including spidey sense feelings, before I understand them.



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28 Jun 2012, 10:58 am

NTs are actually less in touch with the real world than autistics are. We're less affected by many visual illusions, and we don't attribute intentions to inanimate objects as readily.

Not to say we're better or worse - there are side effects to the increased accuracy of autistic perception. NTs misperceive because they're using heuristics which in many situations are useful. Autistics use fewer heuristics, which makes us more accurate but less efficient at perception.



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28 Jun 2012, 11:06 am

Ettina wrote:
NTs are actually less in touch with the real world than autistics are. We're less affected by many visual illusions, and we don't attribute intentions to inanimate objects as readily.

Not to say we're better or worse - there are side effects to the increased accuracy of autistic perception. NTs misperceive because they're using heuristics which in many situations are useful. Autistics use fewer heuristics, which makes us more accurate but less efficient at perception.

In other words we are better at discovering new things, but It's harder for us to improve them?



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28 Jun 2012, 11:39 am

dizzee, you don't accept the inequality of the world.



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28 Jun 2012, 11:59 am

DonkeyBuster wrote:
dizzee, you don't accept the inequality of the world.

Yes I don't, guess I'm the only one.



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28 Jun 2012, 12:23 pm

This doesn't apply to me. In my case it's that I don't fit into the NT world, was unable to figure out how to adapt to the NT world, finally gave up trying to adapt, and I do have resentment for the bullying and abuse I was subjected to as a child, and to being treated as a weird freak even today.


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28 Jun 2012, 4:11 pm

Dizzee wrote:
DonkeyBuster wrote:
dizzee, you don't accept the inequality of the world.

Yes I don't, guess I'm the only one.


That sounds lonely. Why do you think you're the only one?