Update on the DSM-5 Criteria - IACC meeting

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this summer an IACC Full Committee Meeting was webcastet on 7/10/2012 from 9:00 AM - 5:00 PM

during the hearing, some interesting information was revealed about the upcoming DSM-5 criteria, that doesn't seem to be relayed in the media. not even the page on the DSM-5 is updated with this information yet!

[img][800:639]http://i.imgur.com/pUs0F.png[/img]

the interesting webcast (all 7 hours!) can be seen here:

http://webcast.nccsite.com/nih/0007/main.htm#

choose chapter: Update on the DSM-5 Criteria for Autism Spectrum Disorders

to see this particular chapter (duration 22 min) and hear some myths get busted.

john elder robison asks some very good questions about what actually will happen with "asperger syndrome"...


http://webcast.nccsite.com/nih/0007/main.htm#



BTW:

eye gays

In this picture.... can someone explain to me please what is meant be B. 2) ?

I don't really understand that point.

Thanks for sharing that, that was very interesting and helpful!

What they're saying looks to be the same as the website:

http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevision/Pa ... spx?rid=94

Looks pretty strict - doesn't seem to account for severity? My wife seems to tick the same checkboxes as me even though she has very obvious symptoms (few coping strategies, so if she ever does go out I get 'sympathetic' people asking me what's wrong with her..) whereas with me unless you threw me in a room full of people you probably wouldn't notice anything.

no it doesn't…

that's why i posted this.

it's in the details:

THAT is interesting. english has gone out the window. thanks for posting this. i'll watch it later. hopefully it'll still be up in 2 weeks or next saturday when i'll have time.

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They sayed on the video that ASD is a lifelong diagnosis, so you can't loose the diagnosis anymore, just because you don't fit totally into all of the symptoms anymore, but in such cases you can write: "ASD in remission", because it has shown in a lot of cases that the diagnosis got dropped and the difficulties came back later and so the patients (espessially children) had to get rediagnosed again OR that there were still some difficulties left.

So that's the reason why they changed it.
So the only reason why an ASD-diagnosis can get dropped again is, when it is believed that someone got missdiagnosed.

What's an eye gay?

eye gays… only plural.






(eye gaze)

Can someone summarize what the new things are from the videos?

I have difficulty watching and learning things from videos.

Sorry still don't get it. Is it in reference to something in the video? I didn't watch it.

look at the image… it is in there.

So the by history thing is the new thing? The only new thing?

It seems reasonable to me. It seems like adults who don't eggsacly meet the criteria as adults due to their advanced compensatory strategies can still be diagnosed based on their meeting of the full criteria as children without these strategies.

great video thanks for posting.

It was from the closed caption test in the video. The translation was kind of screwed up so eye gaze because eye gays and early intervention became urine intervention, just as two examples. The cc was pretty bad on this video, but funny in some places.

no not the only new thing.

i found three other informations rather important:

1. according to the person representing the DSM-5 task force, if you compare the original asperger syndrome criteria and autism side by side, asperger is the more severe condition.

2. when john elder robison asked her about if the words "asperger syndrome" still can be used, she answered positive, by stating that for it to be in the DSM-5 dx it has to be carried forward. (meaning: it will be possible to refer to it by subtext to the dx, just like HFA is used in conjunction with autism today, and just as the DSM-5 requires to denote the severity). in essence i think this means that asperger syndrome will survive, although not as the main official dx, but as a footnote.

3. the USA will skip ICD-10 and go straight to ICD-11 (asperger syndrome is probably still going to be in there!)


i agree that it is good that they now acknowledge that autism is a lifelong condition. no cure possible…