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05 May 2014, 4:16 am

I always feel better about myself when I hear about NTs having social problems. Especially when they're talking about the past. I often like to fantasize about having a normal social life one day.


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05 May 2014, 4:23 am

Tisk tisk... There's no material need to predicate your happiness on others' unhappiness. Focus instead on what you can learn from NTs' mistakes in these situations.


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05 May 2014, 4:25 am

i'm on a couple of forums full of nt teens and a lot of them have a pretty difficult time with things that don't effect me. so i'm not all that anxious to trade places with a lot of them. but would like to be more of an average person



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05 May 2014, 4:34 am

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Tisk tisk... There's no material need to predicate your happiness on others' unhappiness. Focus instead on what you can learn from NTs' mistakes in these situations.

I'm not feeling happy because they're unhappy, I'm feeling happy because it makes me feel like my struggles are more normal. It also helps me feel less autistic.


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05 May 2014, 5:18 am

DevilKisses wrote:
cberg wrote:
Tisk tisk... There's no material need to predicate your happiness on others' unhappiness. Focus instead on what you can learn from NTs' mistakes in these situations.

I'm not feeling happy because they're unhappy, I'm feeling happy because it makes me feel like my struggles are more normal. It also helps me feel less autistic.


A need to feel less like what you used to identify with seems to me like a need to acknowledge your mind's continuity with those of the rest of humanity. This is the REAL autism rights movement, the real way to make sure we aren't ostracized as a subset with some apocryphal diagnosis people couldn't just ask us about.

None of us have a biological need to feel less autistic, only more human. Thank you for your contributions!


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05 May 2014, 5:51 am

NTs are peee-o-ple too, Wacka Doo, Wacka Doo, Wacka Doo, Wacka Doo

To the tune of the song "Kids are People, Too," which used to be sung on a song called "Wonderama."



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05 May 2014, 7:19 am

It just confuses me because what is the difference then between AS. I then remember as a kid how I had constant problems with other kids and trying to relate to them and socialize. It was only easy if we did things I wanted. Then I think maybe I had so much trouble because we didn't have anything in common and they were just boring. When we moved to Montana, my parents had no friends because they had nothing in common with people out there but here my mom has friends again. I still have none. I also read it's hard to relate to something if it's never happened to you and you can't truly understand something unless you have been through it. You can still have sympathy but you won't have empathy.


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05 May 2014, 7:24 am

This NT girl I am interested in appeared to be very flirty, well liked and happy. Only after talking to her one on one do I realize she has Aspie-like difficulties with socializing (likely due to a sheltered childhood like mine) and her flirtiness and cheerfulness is like my temper and competitiveness: a coping mechanism to cover up how insecure she is at social events. She also told me that she gets exhausted dealing with people and likes to be left alone at times when I was sure she was an extreme extrovert! I also found out that even though she talks with men all the time she has only ever had one relationship in her life and people told me she has no idea how to talk to guys in general. Long story short, everything she told me sounds almost like she is my female equivalent even as an NT. She even mentioned how she like to be in charge and finds it difficult to work with others like she was parroting exactly how I feel.

I'm not happy to hear she has difficulties but it is reassuring to find out a supposedly happy, content, well liked NT is having many of the same social challenges I am. I'm sure at work many people would be surprised to hear about my difficulties as I am well liked too and cheerful too.



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05 May 2014, 8:02 am

GiantHockeyFan wrote:
This NT girl I am interested in appeared to be very flirty, well liked and happy. Only after talking to her one on one do I realize she has Aspie-like difficulties with socializing (likely due to a sheltered childhood like mine) and her flirtiness and cheerfulness is like my temper and competitiveness: a coping mechanism to cover up how insecure she is at social events. She also told me that she gets exhausted dealing with people and likes to be left alone at times when I was sure she was an extreme extrovert! I also found out that even though she talks with men all the time she has only ever had one relationship in her life and people told me she has no idea how to talk to guys in general. Long story short, everything she told me sounds almost like she is my female equivalent even as an NT. She even mentioned how she like to be in charge and finds it difficult to work with others like she was parroting exactly how I feel.

I'm not happy to hear she has difficulties but it is reassuring to find out a supposedly happy, content, well liked NT is having many of the same social challenges I am. I'm sure at work many people would be surprised to hear about my difficulties as I am well liked too and cheerful too.


Are you sure she is NT?

Every time an NT lists too many of their challenges an aspie faces, I am skeptical about them being NT. I wonder if they are somewhere on the spectrum and don't even realize it. They could have other issues too that also causes social issues but that still doesn't mean they are NT.


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05 May 2014, 11:31 am

DevilKisses wrote:
I always feel better about myself when I hear about NTs having social problems. Especially when they're talking about the past. I often like to fantasize about having a normal social life one day.


Sometimes I feel like that too. I like it when an NT says they don't do drinking out late at bars, because I feel like I'm not the only one.

I hate it when an NT goes ''I just spend Friday and Saturday nights indoors...'', I smile and think ''someone out there is similar to me'', and then they go ''...because I don't have much money to spend on going out at night''. So, in other words, that person would be out with a pile of mates at nightclubs if he/she had the money. I hate it when it's just money that's the factor and not the lack of interest in going out.

But, good news, there are some NTs out there who really aren't interested in clubs and bars. But the bad news is those NTs are very few and far between. That's why I mostly make friends with older people, most older people aren't so bothered about going out to nightclubs like they used to as youngsters.


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