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21 Sep 2014, 8:16 pm

I live in a sort of boarding house situation.

There is a girl who lives with us who claims to have three diagnoses: Asperger's syndrome, schizophrenia, and bipolar disorder.

I was friendly with her at first. I like to avoid drama. She had disclosed she was a lesbian, which didn't bother me. But she started doing things to invade my space, like touching me odd. Once she tried to get on top of me while we were watching a TV show in my room. I told her I wasn't a lesbian, and she got upset. She ran out of my room screaming and the next day I had learned she told most of the girls that I was homophobic and intolerant. She then apologized for the behavior, saying "it's my Asperger's."

A similar story was told to me from a girl who went out for drinks with the person I'm talking about. The person asked this girl if she was open for a relationship. The girl is not a lesbian, told the other girl this, and was faced with accusations of "You hate gays because of your stupid religion." Blah blah blah.

The first girl I am talking about sings loudly and horribly at all hours of the day. Blames it on schizophrenia. She will also do messed up things like going into people's room, destroying their things, acting like she's drunk when she hasn't been drinking, and then says it's a "manic episode." But in situations where she was mad that I wasn't a lesbian, she called it a "meltdown."

Before she would knock on my door at around the same time everyday for a good three weeks. I needed space and she didn't seem to respect that, so one time I yelled at her to go away and I slammed the door. She would stomp every time she passed by my room and she would also make squealing noises as well. Why? She is 26 years old.

I think this person is full of crap and some girls who live in the same place have asked me some offensive questions based on her behavior. She claims to have written a book about how she was sexually abused by her stepdad. Another girl told me the first thing this person did when first meeting her was invite her to her room and gave her the book (a notebook with nice binding, pretty much) to read.

The people who head the house have already asked what's going on with this girl. They can't exactly kick her out because of the possibility that she really is sick and I guess they don't want to face a lawsuit. I don't exactly know what to tell them, aside from her behavior. But I don't think she has a condition. I think she's just an idiot.

Do you know anyone like this?



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21 Sep 2014, 8:24 pm

Sounds to me like a plea for attention. It's pretty clear she doesn't have AS if she's acting social and such. It doesn't seem like she knows anything about the conditions she claims to have. :/ I mean, I know I come off as not disabled to people either... but that just screams fake to me.


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21 Sep 2014, 8:26 pm

I uh thought you couldn't be diagnosed with both schizophrenia and aspergers? Really suspicious.. Sounds like there are some major issues going on either way if she wants attention (or something) this way and that she's not mentally well.


Not sure what you should do in this situation, because I personally would have a very hard time feeling sorry for her. I'm sorry you are having to deal with this. Don't they have some sort of rights when it comes to somebody who is a detriment to the atmosphere and mental well-being of other housemates?



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21 Sep 2014, 8:28 pm

Does the head of the place of right to ask her for proof? If so, I'd consider that as well. If she can't provide a doctor's note at least of what she has... then that tells you something right there.


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21 Sep 2014, 8:41 pm

Looks like you didn't do anything wrong. She sounds real rude and using her conditions as an excuse.


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21 Sep 2014, 8:53 pm

LokiofSassgard wrote:
Does the head of the place of right to ask her for proof? If so, I'd consider that as well. If she can't provide a doctor's note at least of what she has... then that tells you something right there.


They don't ask. It's one of those religiously affiliated, we don't ask kind of deals.

They did tell me they can only refer her to mental health services, but they can't pay for her mental health services. This is also a situation where the house managers speak very little English, are weirded out by her behavior enough as it is, and can't really communicate with her effectively.



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21 Sep 2014, 9:00 pm

I lived in a shared house with a girl like that once. We ended up disbanding the house before the lease was finished. The agent for the landlord let us out of the lease, based on learning about the girl's behaviour. One guy in the house was stupid enough to have a sexual fling with her.

If others in the house are having the same issues with her, perhaps you could find a solution together.


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21 Sep 2014, 9:05 pm

She clearly has some condition. She sounds more like she has histronic personality disorder or borderline personality disorder. She does sound like she could really be paranoid schizophrenic, though. Definitely bipolar. I have no idea about the squealing thing but it sounds like she's really sick. If she ever harrasses you again, don't hesitate to get help.



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21 Sep 2014, 9:07 pm

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I lived in a shared house with a girl like that once. We ended up disbanding the house before the lease was finished. The agent for the landlord let us out of the lease, based on learning about the girl's behaviour. One guy in the house was stupid enough to have a sexual fling with her.

If others in the house are having the same issues with her, perhaps you could find a solution together.


She made a false sexual abuse allegation regarding the maintenance man. She said he showed his genitals to her without warning and would take nude pictures of her. Interestingly, he did take nude pictures of her, but everything she was describing may be concluded as consensual, if you note inconsistencies in her story and accounts from other girls regarding how the two interacted.



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21 Sep 2014, 9:13 pm

Craziness is both a product of and a reaction to the world as a whole. I think, considering how little we know of your backgrounds that you should verbosely outline means of getting along to her and avoid future scuffles by trying to project concerned understanding, as difficult as that may seem right now. Retribution in situations like these won't do anything positive for your own anxieties.


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21 Sep 2014, 9:33 pm

The first thing I thought about while reading OP's post was the character on Glee who used an AS diagnosis to explain why she could say whatever she wanted. I hope things work out for you and the others; you shouldn't be subjected to this kind of behavior, especially in a living situation.


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21 Sep 2014, 9:46 pm

You're doing the right thing. That girl has a lot of growing up to do. I'd be royally cheesed off, too if I was in your shoes.


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21 Sep 2014, 10:34 pm

This is interesting. I mention I was harassed by people with Autism and told all sorts of reasons why I was wrong and even Autistic people are incapable of cruelty. OP posts a girl with Aspergers is harassing him and gets all kinds of understanding. No "Not all people with Asperger's!" "You just must be in a bad home!" Oh and that she must be lying about having Asperger's and using it as an excuse, when you'd never tolerate someone suggesting a peron with Autism uses their diagnoses to get out of trouble.

Why? Where's the outcry he's assuming things about an entire community of disabled people?



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21 Sep 2014, 10:39 pm

MatchingBlues wrote:
I live in a sort of boarding house situation.

There is a girl who lives with us who claims to have three diagnoses: Asperger's syndrome, schizophrenia, and bipolar disorder.

I was friendly with her at first. I like to avoid drama. She had disclosed she was a lesbian, which didn't bother me. But she started doing things to invade my space, like touching me odd. Once she tried to get on top of me while we were watching a TV show in my room. I told her I wasn't a lesbian, and she got upset. She ran out of my room screaming and the next day I had learned she told most of the girls that I was homophobic and intolerant. She then apologized for the behavior, saying "it's my Asperger's."

A similar story was told to me from a girl who went out for drinks with the person I'm talking about. The person asked this girl if she was open for a relationship. The girl is not a lesbian, told the other girl this, and was faced with accusations of "You hate gays because of your stupid religion." Blah blah blah.

The first girl I am talking about sings loudly and horribly at all hours of the day. Blames it on schizophrenia. She will also do messed up things like going into people's room, destroying their things, acting like she's drunk when she hasn't been drinking, and then says it's a "manic episode." But in situations where she was mad that I wasn't a lesbian, she called it a "meltdown."

Before she would knock on my door at around the same time everyday for a good three weeks. I needed space and she didn't seem to respect that, so one time I yelled at her to go away and I slammed the door. She would stomp every time she passed by my room and she would also make squealing noises as well. Why? She is 26 years old.

I think this person is full of crap and some girls who live in the same place have asked me some offensive questions based on her behavior. She claims to have written a book about how she was sexually abused by her stepdad. Another girl told me the first thing this person did when first meeting her was invite her to her room and gave her the book (a notebook with nice binding, pretty much) to read.

The people who head the house have already asked what's going on with this girl. They can't exactly kick her out because of the possibility that she really is sick and I guess they don't want to face a lawsuit. I don't exactly know what to tell them, aside from her behavior. But I don't think she has a condition. I think she's just an idiot.

Do you know anyone like this?


Schizophrenia, Aspergers, and Bipolar can not be comorbid together. If she has recieved such a diagnosis from a single psychologist, then that psychologist needs to lose her license.
If it is different psychologists giving three different diagnosis, then it means that she is avoiding a true diagnosis and those different diagnosis can't all be accepted.

Schizophrenia already includes a mood disorder, therefore you can't also be bipolar. If you are bipolar, you can't also be schizophrenic because that would be a conflicting diagnosis.

Similarly, some of schizophrenia has many symptoms that resemble aspergers. A schizoid (one side of the schizo spectrum) is very similar to aspergers and it can be difficult to tell the difference. However, it is one, not both. The difference would mostly manifest when you put pressure on the patient. If they are on the schizo spectrum, they may enter a temporary psychosis (i.e. the worse sympoms of major hallucinations and serious delusions become present.) Aspies won't do that, and I think all of here know what happens we get very stressed out.

What it sounds like is that she sexually harrassed you.

I would guess that she is a female psychopath (antisocial personality disorder) who is using the diagnosis or fake diagnosis to get free pass on her behavior. Stay away from her. An antisocial has no impulse control, they do what they desire when that desire strikes and will feel no regret.

If she is isn't a female psychopath and she truly believes what she is saying, then she is schizophrenic with very severe delusions and she is being a danger to people around her (and likely requires hospitalization, and I don't view hospitalization lightly.)



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21 Sep 2014, 10:43 pm

VioletYoshi wrote:
This is interesting. I mention I was harassed by people with Autism and told all sorts of reasons why I was wrong and even Autistic people are incapable of cruelty. OP posts a girl with Aspergers is harassing him and gets all kinds of understanding. No "Not all people with Asperger's!" "You just must be in a bad home!" Oh and that she must be lying abouthaving Asperger's and using it as an excuse, when you'd never tolerate someone suggesting a peron with Autism uses their diagnoses to get out of trouble.

Why? Where's the outcry he's assuming things about an entire community of disabled people?


OH FFS. What do you believe to be gaining on this site when all you do is post things to do with whatever unfortunate event that happened to you. If you explained your situation without attacking a group of people, then you would be receiving some kind of sympathy as well. There is a difference between LFA and aspergers. If this girl has aspergers, then she know better to a point where she should be held accountable. Low-functioning autistics have intellectual impairment, so it's a different situation entirely. I really recommend you seeing a professional and sorting through this, because it has clearly been affecting you on a deep level.



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21 Sep 2014, 10:45 pm

VioletYoshi wrote:
This is interesting. I mention I was harassed by people with Autism and told all sorts of reasons why I was wrong and even Autistic people are incapable of cruelty. OP posts a girl with Aspergers is harassing him and gets all kinds of understanding. No "Not all people with Asperger's!" "You just must be in a bad home!" Oh and that she must be lying about having Asperger's and using it as an excuse, when you'd never tolerate someone suggesting a peron with Autism uses their diagnoses to get out of trouble.

Why? Where's the outcry he's assuming things about an entire community of disabled people?


I believe autistic people are capable of cruelty. I am sorry for what happened to you. I read about it on another thread.

However, in this case aspergers and/or autism is very unlikely just based on her behavior.