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12 Jan 2015, 7:07 pm

Hey Gang, Yes it's another one of those questions Aspergers Vs Autism. So I was wondering if anybody here had any illustrations that would clearly explain the differences between the two. Also would it be possible for an individual to have a "touch" of Aspergers while having Autism or is it black and white one or the other?

Some people within my family tend to think I have Aspergers over Autism tho my dignoses stated ASD due to the changes in the DSM I did have speech delays as a child which I believe rules out Aspergers tho I'm not sure if that's the defacto cut off between AS and Aut

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12 Jan 2015, 7:21 pm

Many times, one cannot tell if somebody has an autism spectrum disorder through pictures.



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12 Jan 2015, 7:50 pm

JoelFan wrote:
Hey Gang, Yes it's another one of those questions Aspergers Vs Autism. So I was wondering if anybody here had any illustrations that would clearly explain the differences between the two. Also would it be possible for an individual to have a "touch" of Aspergers while having Autism or is it black and white one or the other?

Some people within my family tend to think I have Aspergers over Autism tho my dignoses stated ASD due to the changes in the DSM I did have speech delays as a child which I believe rules out Aspergers tho I'm not sure if that's the defacto cut off between AS and Aut

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Aspergers IS Autism.

There is NO versus.



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12 Jan 2015, 10:36 pm

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JoelFan wrote:
Hey Gang, Yes it's another one of those questions Aspergers Vs Autism. So I was wondering if anybody here had any illustrations that would clearly explain the differences between the two. Also would it be possible for an individual to have a "touch" of Aspergers while having Autism or is it black and white one or the other?

Some people within my family tend to think I have Aspergers over Autism tho my dignoses stated ASD due to the changes in the DSM I did have speech delays as a child which I believe rules out Aspergers tho I'm not sure if that's the defacto cut off between AS and Aut

Advice?


Aspergers IS Autism.

There is NO versus.


I guess what I am trying to get at is what is the cut off point where one can not be labeled as having Aspergers and it "defaults" to Autism? what was criteria one had to meet in order to be diagnosed as having Aspergers Vs being diagnosed as (classic) Autism?


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13 Jan 2015, 12:34 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Many times, one cannot tell if somebody has an autism spectrum disorder through pictures.


I think I found what I was kinda talking about Image

I pretty much match everything from the Aspergers column tho I was delayed in my speech and according to the most recent IQ exam I'm in the "low average" range and yes I do have issues going to sleep/staying asleep so does that cancel out Aspergers?


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13 Jan 2015, 3:14 am

JoelFan wrote:
I guess what I am trying to get at is what is the cut off point where one can not be labeled as having Aspergers and it "defaults" to Autism? what was criteria one had to meet in order to be diagnosed as having Aspergers Vs being diagnosed as (classic) Autism?


Required for Asperger's diagnosis:

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(IV) There is no clinically significant general delay in language (E.G. single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years)

(V) There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction) and curiosity about the environment in childhood.


Required for Autistic Disorder diagnosis:

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(B) qualitative impairments in communication as manifested by at least one of the following:

1. delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language (not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative modes of communication such as gesture or mime)
2. in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others
3. stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language
4. lack of varied, spontaneous make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level


The number of symptom boxes that needed to be checked off was also different (for an Autistic Disorder diagnosis a total of 6 "manifested by at least [x] of the following"-symptoms was required, for an Asperger's diagnosis a total of 3 "manifested by at least [x] of the following"-symptoms was required.)

In actual clinical practice, the way the two were differentiated varied from one professional/clinic to another and didn't necessarily follow the DSM criteria. That was part of the argument for getting rid of the separate diagnoses.


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