Why do other ASD people creep me out?

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mistersprinkles
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18 Feb 2015, 8:59 pm

I've noticed that other people on the spectrum creep me out and make me feel uncomfortable. I find them unpredictable. I feel like this must be the way others see me. It doesn't make me feel very good about myself to think that. I go to group meetings with about 20-25 other people with Aspergers ranging from moderate to severe. They creep me out. All except for two people who come across as normal to me. Just shy.

Today on public transit a very clearly autistic girl said to me, after I payed my fare "You need to take a transfer or the transit police will get you". Which is not true. I just ignored her.

I kind of feel like a jerk for ignoring her. Like me, she likely has few friends....

Am I a monster???

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18 Feb 2015, 9:18 pm

That girl sounded like she had something other than Asperger's Syndrome.



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18 Feb 2015, 9:41 pm

mistersprinkles wrote:
I've noticed that other people on the spectrum creep me out and make me feel uncomfortable. I find them unpredictable. I feel like this must be the way others see me. It doesn't make me feel very good about myself to think that. I go to group meetings with about 20-25 other people with Aspergers ranging from moderate to severe. They creep me out. All except for two people who come across as normal to me. Just shy.

Today on public transit a very clearly autistic girl said to me, after I payed my fare "You need to take a transfer or the transit police will get you". Which is not true. I just ignored her.

I kind of feel like a jerk for ignoring her. Like me, she likely has few friends....

Am I a monster???

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I find the unpredictability refreshing in comparison to a world of sheep.
One of the few things that rubs me wrong is transgressions in logic.

I agree, that girl may have had schizophrenia or something else.
Just roll with it. Smile and say thank you.



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18 Feb 2015, 9:47 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
That girl sounded like she had something other than Asperger's Syndrome.


That or maybe cocaine...only reason I say that is I talked to someone who had clearly done a lot of it within the past hour and kept telling me how the people walking back and fourth(likely impatiently waiting for the bus) where really undercover cops because of they way the way they where walking. Another reason I know they had was they told me repeatedly that they just did cocaine..........ever see metalocalypse, there is a character that reflects this sort of thing. Either way seemed like a somewhat paranoid thing to say. I tried a little once and did not get paranoid but that's likely different than consuming a large amount.


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18 Feb 2015, 10:19 pm

Other people with ASD creep you out due to your biology as in the past we as a species wanted to weed out "non-normal" behaviour from out tribe. Hence, why you are creeped out as your lizard brain is saying that they have traits that is not desired for breeding.



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19 Feb 2015, 12:14 am

I thought she was on the spectrum because in the group of aspies I go to some people say extremely random things like that out of the blue. Maybe I misjudged.



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19 Feb 2015, 1:33 am

mistersprinkles wrote:
I've noticed that other people on the spectrum creep me out and make me feel uncomfortable. I find them unpredictable. I feel like this must be the way others see me. It doesn't make me feel very good about myself to think that. I go to group meetings with about 20-25 other people with Aspergers ranging from moderate to severe. They creep me out. All except for two people who come across as normal to me. Just shy.

Today on public transit a very clearly autistic girl said to me, after I payed my fare "You need to take a transfer or the transit police will get you". Which is not true. I just ignored her.

I kind of feel like a jerk for ignoring her. Like me, she likely has few friends....

Am I a monster???

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You seem to be saying one thing in your first paragraph and something unrelated in the second paragraph. You feel like a jerk for ignoring the girl on public transit when she spoke to you. I would have thought your (non) response for someone with ASD towards the girl to be similar to the way I might have responded in such a situation. I used to get sensory overload when I was younger on public transport with lots of people around and would just go mute if someone unexpectedly said something to me. I used to feel ashamed afterwards that I didn't say or do anything in those situations. It would not have occurred to me if the person talking to me had ASD or not. I was more concerned about my lack of response.

In your first paragraph you say that the people in your ASD group creep you out, but this appears to me to be you internalizing your own struggle with ASD, as you feel closer to the two people whom I guessing have HFA as opposed to the others in your group who are more on the LFA side. You might be feeling that you don't belong in this group because you really only identify with two of them.



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19 Feb 2015, 4:05 pm

I once saw somebody wear the same jumper/pullover as me, that really freaked me out, especially as it was so very many years old and it made me see how others see me.



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19 Feb 2015, 6:54 pm

It's because they have a disability that makes it difficult for them to socialise.

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Other people with ASD creep you out due to your biology as in the past we as a species wanted to weed out "non-normal" behaviour from out tribe. Hence, why you are creeped out as your lizard brain is saying that they have traits that is not desired for breeding.

Please, if you're interested in psychology or evolution or neuroscience then learn some real stuff rather than this rubbish.

I know it's just a turn of phrase in some pseudo-psych communities, but we didn't even live in tribes when we were lizards.



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19 Feb 2015, 7:15 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
It's because they have a disability that makes it difficult for them to socialise.

Orangez wrote:
Other people with ASD creep you out due to your biology as in the past we as a species wanted to weed out "non-normal" behaviour from out tribe. Hence, why you are creeped out as your lizard brain is saying that they have traits that is not desired for breeding.

Please, if you're interested in psychology or evolution or neuroscience then learn some real stuff rather than this rubbish.

I know it's just a turn of phrase in some pseudo-psych communities, but we didn't even live in tribes when we were lizards.


I don't think what he said was rubbish. It's just stated in plain layman terms.
Our brain development has been cumulative, so the "lizard brain" is actually still there in a sense.
I believe that was the way in which he intended his statement, not that lizards were looking after a tribe.

There is good information about "the uncanny valley" online to get more of the specifics.



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20 Feb 2015, 9:49 am

Orangez wrote:
Other people with ASD creep you out due to your biology as in the past we as a species wanted to weed out "non-normal" behaviour from out tribe. Hence, why you are creeped out as your lizard brain is saying that they have traits that is not desired for breeding.

That is true, but there is more than that. Not wanting to have offspring with someone won't make me wary of them. It's about them coming off as not right, possibly unstable and dangerous.
I have seen people do weird things in public that may or may not have been stims. I thought "nuts" and avoided them. And I would again. When someone comes off like that, they trigger our self-preservation instincts.

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Orangez wrote:
Other people with ASD creep you out due to your biology as in the past we as a species wanted to weed out "non-normal" behaviour from out tribe. Hence, why you are creeped out as your lizard brain is saying that they have traits that is not desired for breeding.

Please, if you're interested in psychology or evolution or neuroscience then learn some real stuff rather than this rubbish.

I know it's just a turn of phrase in some pseudo-psych communities, but we didn't even live in tribes when we were lizards.

It's what a lot of people call the amygdala, the reptilian part of the brain that drives fear and fight or flight. It has nothing to do with thinking lizards live in tribes. We have never been lizards anyway. Remotely related, yes, as we are to all life on Earth, but we never evolved from lizards.


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20 Feb 2015, 9:52 am

Because they do weird unexpected behavior and sound special and you dont know how to react. just my guess.



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20 Feb 2015, 10:41 pm

Autistic people don't creep me out. Some can be annoying if they focus on a political ideology I don't approve of, and others I respect because they remind me of myself. Most just want to be left alone, and I can certainly respect that. I instinctively recognise other autists as truly human, as opposed to NTs, who I often view as potentially dangerous creatures who babble inanities and who must be humoured.

I am nervous about inadvertently outing myself as an Aspie if I interact with them too much. If we were to start talking fast about esoteric subjects or share childhood experiences, NTs in the vicinity might realise that there is more to us then what meets the eye. Besides that, I generally prefer other ASD people to NTs.