Do you find “The Invention of Lying” relatable?

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19 May 2019, 7:14 am

People who tell the truth all the time really do sound like Aspies. That town could have easily been an Aspie town.



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19 May 2019, 1:18 pm

I honestly would find it a nightmare. Just imagine how much of your self esteem would be affected and all the verbal abuse you would get and everything you would hear from your bullies. After all they are being honest too when they call you a ret*d or tell you how stupid you are and weird and they mean it in a bad way and make fun of your interests. They are just being honest.


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19 May 2019, 4:11 pm

I'm not as brutally honest as other Aspies. I like to be honest as in where people can trust me. But I do tell white lies.

The other night at work I was filling up a bucket of water to wash the office floor, which I wasn't asked to do, I was only doing it because I was finished with my other tasks and had a spare half hour left of my shift. Then my supervisor came along and asked me if I was going to wash the floor on a coach, that I forgot to do. I didn't want to admit that I forgot to wash the floor on the coach, in case he might have thought that I was trying to get away with not washing the coach floor, so being so I was filling up a bucket with water anyway, I just said, "yes, that's what I'm about to do".
And another time at work two male co-workers were gossiping about something that intrigued me, so I went up to the room they were in, and the door was open but one of them said, "get out, I'm getting changed". I felt really silly, and a bit later he asked me what it was I wanted to ask him, and I couldn't say "oh I was just wanted to know what you were talking about", so instead I just said, "I wanted to ask if you had the keys to the equipment cupboard, but it's OK I found them".

Those two examples are white lies, but they don't hurt anyone. I use those sorts of white lies all the time, just to avoid having to explain myself, or humiliation, or to save someone's feelings, or to avoid trouble, or anything depending on the nature of the situation. I'm glad I have this skill.


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19 May 2019, 6:18 pm

League_Girl wrote:
I honestly would find it a nightmare. Just imagine how much of your self esteem would be affected and all the verbal abuse you would get and everything you would hear from your bullies. After all they are being honest too when they call you a ret*d or tell you how stupid you are and weird and they mean it in a bad way and make fun of your interests. They are just being honest.


^This^


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19 May 2019, 11:34 pm

KikiKitty678 wrote:
People who tell the truth all the time really do sound like Aspies. That town could have easily been an Aspie town.


It's funny, I watched it the other day and thought the opposite. I expected to find its honesty relatable but thought it was extremely manipulative, mean honesty, not at all my experience of autistic honesty.

Not saying aspies can't be manipulative. I just find our insecurities etc. tend not to manifest in the same ways as NTs


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20 May 2019, 12:11 am

League_Girl wrote:
I honestly would find it a nightmare. Just imagine how much of your self esteem would be affected and all the verbal abuse you would get and everything you would hear from your bullies. After all they are being honest too when they call you a ret*d or tell you how stupid you are and weird and they mean it in a bad way and make fun of your interests. They are just being honest.


I would rather have others think I'm a ret*d and say it to my face rather then pretend to be my friend and/or say good things about me and not really mean it.

And, it would give me a stronger case as to why I can't succeed in the USA.



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20 May 2019, 12:49 am

Are you referring to this movie?



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20 May 2019, 3:20 am

As the bullies from when i was young said the hurtfull stuff anyway it doesnt matter if they would only tell the truth as well. I rather have everyone just be honest.

I however had to learn to tell one lie: When asked, how are you doing? I now always answer: Good.

But thats to end a conversation that they wouldnt understand anyway.

Still feels bad though, everytime i say its Good it hurts.



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20 May 2019, 5:00 pm

Saw the teasers for it when it came out.

Figured that it was just Jim Carrey's "Liar Liar" turned on its head.

Also figured that it couldn't possibly work as a movie as well as the earlier movie that it was kinda ripping off. So I skipped seeing it.



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20 May 2019, 5:54 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I honestly would find it a nightmare. Just imagine how much of your self esteem would be affected and all the verbal abuse you would get and everything you would hear from your bullies. After all they are being honest too when they call you a ret*d or tell you how stupid you are and weird and they mean it in a bad way and make fun of your interests. They are just being honest.


I would rather have others think I'm a ret*d and say it to my face rather then pretend to be my friend and/or say good things about me and not really mean it.

And, it would give me a stronger case as to why I can't succeed in the USA.



Or how about people say nothing at all and not be your friend?

It's as if no one knows this other option exists.


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20 May 2019, 6:03 pm

I never knew it was a movie until I read the other posts in this thread. :oops:


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