World is dead set against those on the margins...

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24 Jun 2019, 4:37 pm

So... due to noise initiated by others, not only is there an impossibility to organize, one gets into trouble with the law, despite being initiated by others (why not target them? Oh wait, in 'society' apparently one can destroy others' minds... but if they dare retaliate?) - and then gets forced to move with disorganization increasing by about 50% due to the previous impossibility to organize.

Societies are f****d, correct?



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24 Jun 2019, 4:42 pm

Specific examples, please?



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25 Jun 2019, 5:10 am

OP, weirdness be thy name.



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25 Jun 2019, 7:55 am

Yep....this is Social Darwinism in a nutshell.

In order to survive, we have to find strategies to offset this crap. I was pretty bad at it for a long time.



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25 Jun 2019, 9:00 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Yep....this is Social Darwinism in a nutshell.

In order to survive, we have to find strategies to offset this crap. I was pretty bad at it for a long time.


People often get by on delusions of security produced from integration with their social environment. They have a notion that people care about others and assist them unconditionally out of innate altruism.

The truth is more cynical, and if you struggle with social integration, one will notice how cliquish and judgmental people actually are and how conditional their compassion is, typically extending either to those most like themselves or some far away tragedy which requires philanthropy and little personal effort.

To the OP, if you are talking about political organization being suppressed, there are a lot of tactics one can use. Civil resistance is one of the great narratives of the 20th century. Your platform has to resonate broadly with public grievances and you have to be willing to use propaganda to agitate the various subgroups within your potential coalition. Great care must be taken to deny the authority the ability to justify its repression, which is why a non-violence strategy works in these contexts. It doesn't hurt to court the wealthier members of a targeted group to provide an understanding that they benefit from changing the current system because of internalized and institutional bias against them from traditionally dominant groups. Pressure and time...


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25 Jun 2019, 2:27 pm

Being in the "margins" is not :evil: survival of the fittest :twisted:


For the some people are born blind


It's a disadvantage at living

But it is not their fault



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25 Jun 2019, 8:59 pm

Weirdness wrote:
So... due to noise initiated by others, not only is there an impossibility to organize, one gets into trouble with the law, despite being initiated by others (why not target them? Oh wait, in 'society' apparently one can destroy others' minds... but if they dare retaliate?) - and then gets forced to move with disorganization increasing by about 50% due to the previous impossibility to organize.

Societies are f****d, correct?


Societies are run according to the noise tolerance, etc, of the majority. The fringes are not only hard to accommodate, but often contradictory. It is not malevolence affecting the outliers like yourself, just probabilities.