Predicting the future and other odd things that happen to me

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MarkOrbit
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16 Feb 2021, 5:44 pm

I figured this would be the best place to ask about this. Maybe someone can explain what is going on. I'll try to keep it short.

Once in a while I will think about something or have a thought just before it happens, within 2 to 4 seconds. This can happen while asleep or awake. It doesn't happen when I'm present, only in a subconscious state or when I am zoning out. I'm trying to develop this a bit more if anyone has some advice. I'll give some examples.

Sleeping for example. I will dream about a door shutting and right at the moment it shuts, a noise will wake me up. Like a picture falling or something. The door is only one example, this can happen for various different things. Like if someone is about to yell at me in my dream, they open their mouth and then suddenly I will be woken by someone speaking loudly outside.

Awake example. Typically when I am physically doing something, like cooking or rolling up some cables for example, I will be zoning out thinking about something else. For example, I will think about going to a Boutique, then then 2 to 3 seconds later some guy on TV or radio will say "Boutique". The radio or video topic is unrelated to my thoughts. This happens all the time for various things

For many years I just called it a coincidence but sometimes it's really spot on. Anyone else have this experience? LOA perhaps?

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16 Feb 2021, 5:45 pm

Google the phrase "Confirmation Bias".



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16 Feb 2021, 7:56 pm

Hi Mark! This is a weird subject because, well because when weird phenomena like this happen people either get totally "WOO-WOO", or they write it off as mental-instability. Just because science can't recreate these things on a regular basis in a lab it gets written of as pure coincidence. Please consider though, that I am an Atheist and believe in science and a very skeptical person: that said, science hasn't figured everything out yet. Case in point, we can see the effects of gravity , but we have almost no idea as to how the mechanics of it works; the same thing goes for why animals need sleep, or, technically, bees shouldn't be capable of flight and still.

I have had precognitive dreams. I also have a weird relationship with crows, an animal guide/spirit where they will show up out of nowhere and guide me: I have scared the ca-ca out of people when they see it happen for themselves. On the other hand, do I believe it is something that people can manipulate, like a "psychic", think Madam Lazonga and her crystal ball: no, it doesn't work that way. It's more of a strong feeling you just can't shake. Weird stuff happens that sometimes we can't explain... yet!

I have noticed that people who have these things happen to them are always on-spectrum. Do I expect people to believe me, no? Do I consider this a religious experience, no: it's spiritual, they are mutually exclusive if you look closely at them.

I can appreciate what you are saying bruddah! For many years people believed that only birds could fly and that humans would never be able to: this is because they didn't understand the mechanics of it: it was at this same point in history that people honestly believed that all the inventions that would/could ever be created had already been made.

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17 Feb 2021, 7:36 am

For some reason there is no quote button on your post.
Maybe you are intuitive and have some kind of paranormal gift.



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17 Feb 2021, 9:24 am

I have had quite a few experiences in my Christian life where I just know things that I have not seen. Gods guidence. Like when you know that someone has died and it can be days, or even weeks before you find out that they died when you had the feeling. All sorts of things. Dreams are symbolic. A door closing is a path you should not carry on with. A door opening is the right path...
Visions happen just like they have been seen, though I occasionally get reversed vision as if one has seen the vision like looking at a camera film the wrong way round, but when in weeks or months or even years to come, one walks into the vision it plays out the exact same but the left is right and the right is left if that makes sense?
The strange thing about visions is that when one has the vision, the scene being played out can't be possible at the time of having it, but later somehow it all becomes reality. That is my experience!

In regards to what one of you suggested that those on the autism spectrum have a heightened sense of the spiritual side of things is something I suggested because I have seen this. There is something about it that rings true. We often try to think that a persons mind is playing up, but is it? (Ok, with a few people it maybe, but....).
Let me give an example that is based on Biblical knowledge. In the Christian Bible God is explained in three parts we call the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. It says that we are made in the image of God. We are made in three parts also. The body, the soul and the spirit. If you think about it from your experiences it is true.
Some are dead to the spiritual side because they have nullified it in their lives. They have mentally denied it and so it dies. (I have even seen Christians who go to church and speak the speak but deny the spiritual side. Everything to them is physical. They even deny Hell and Heaven and deny spiritual things which makes one wonder how they can seriously call themselves Christians because they are always denying and debating what the Bible says).

But ok, going back to the spiritual side of things. I have found that I can relate to spiritual people. I can understand them as three dimentional people who have substance. I do find that people who have no spiritual experiences and they do not believe in it (And I do get that we can only understand what we have experienced so I understand that) to be somewhat two dimentional. It is like they have no substance behind them when they try to speak about spiritual things.
Now the three dimentional people vary according to what they follow, but I can have a conversation with one and understand them even if I do not agree with the path they maybe taking.

Here is a thought though along these lines. Is it possible that those who do not believe in the spiritual side of things that they have closed their minds to it and lost their ability to comprehend it? I say this because I have watched certain very intelligent famous people being interviewed about God which they don't believe in, and it became obvious to me that they had convinced themselves in the past that the spiritual side does not exist and therefore that God does not exist, and to me it is plain to see this.
I have also seen some Christians who have gone to Bible colleges and they go in very spiritual and come out the complete opposite, and I remember this young man who I know that he was really hungry to know the spiritual side of Christianity as he was attending a Bible college to get his degree and he was being taught "Flat" Christianity with no spiritual concept to it which is to me defeats the whole object of going to learn about Christianity to begin with, as the Whole Bible is a spiritual book and has the third dimention of spiritual teaching going right through it! (Which is not found in the books that were thrown out like the Apocrapha and it was why they were thrown out, nor was it found in other similar writings... (I can't explain it, but to read the Bible is like eating a thick soup where every mouthful is something of substance, and reading an ordinary book is like trying to chew on water!)).


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17 Feb 2021, 9:39 am

Does no one else find it odd that their "predictions" are only realized after the "predicted" events have occurred?

The famous Jeanne Dixon was notorious for this.  She claimed in 1964 that she had predicted the assassination of President Kennedy, which had already occurred the previous year.  However, no record of her alleged prediction could be found in any previously-published documents.

Hence, I suggest that all of those people who claim to predict the future write down their predictions of events that are easily verifiable -- things like stock-market prices, lottery numbers, and celebrity deaths.  Once they happen, practically everybody will know!



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17 Feb 2021, 9:40 am

Hi Mark,

Yes I have that all the time. It's so common for me, it's like a default way of sensing the world.

Have you ever read Autism and Sensing: The Unlost Instinct, by Donna Williams?

I highly recommend it.


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17 Feb 2021, 9:42 am

Fnord wrote:
Does no one else find it odd that their "predictions" are only realized after the "predicted" events have occurred?



Lots of my predictions are stated or noticed before they come true. Hence the term, "prediction".

Same with the OP.

We can't control which things to predict or not. It's involuntary.


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17 Feb 2021, 9:50 am

I don't believe in this stuff.....but then....you never know!

I'm an agnostic as far as "psychic abilities" and such is concerned.



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17 Feb 2021, 9:51 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Does no one else find it odd that their "predictions" are only realized after the "predicted" events have occurred?
Lots of my predictions are stated or noticed before they come true. Hence the term, "prediction"...
Examples, please?



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17 Feb 2021, 9:55 am

The examples are irrelevant to you. They pertain to my life, my circle of acquaintances, and things that will occur for me.

I don't keep score of them to prove myself right on the internet, or to impress anyone like yourself.

The OP didn't ask to be undermined, criticised, or put down like a fraud. He only asked if people can relate.

If you can't, then perhaps you should leave it at that, or else not reply.


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17 Feb 2021, 10:05 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
The examples are irrelevant to you. They pertain to my life, my circle of acquaintances, and things that will occur for me...
So your claim was only a subjective opinion.
IsabellaLinton wrote:
I don't keep score...
So you have neither examples nor proof.
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The OP didn't ask to be undermined, criticised, or put down like a fraud. He only asked if people can relate.  If you can't, then perhaps you should leave it at that, or else not reply.
Oh, I can relate, alright.  But I relate as a person who has performed as a "psychic" ("performance" being the key word), and I know exactly how to make it seem as if my vaguely-worded and generalized "predictions" are spot-on to my clients.  One of my best tools of the trade was to give short "I told you so" speeches to my clients in such a way that they totally believed in my (faked) ability to predict the future, so I know how people can easily be fooled, and how easily they can fool themselves.



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17 Feb 2021, 10:42 am

The fact that something has happened to me doesn't make it a "subjective opinion", and it isn't open for your scrutiny or challenge. Nor did I express any "opinion" at all about predictions, or why they happen. I only said they do.

I didn't claim that the propensity for predicting things means that it is supernatural, that it is mystical, that it precludes science, or that I understand how / why this happens. If it's confirmation bias, then I have a much higher rate of it than anyone I know. My friends and family are well aware of it. Again, I'm not suggesting to explain it.

You and I had a long discussion about predictions last January when you had belittled another member for a similar thread topic. I would link it, but I'm not going to derail this thread which is not asking for debate.

Out of respect to this OP, I'll leave it at that.


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17 Feb 2021, 10:46 am

If the OP had wanted an "Echo Chamber", he could have said so.

But I have had my say, so no more needs to be said ... for now.



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17 Feb 2021, 10:54 am

This is the General Autism forum.

This is not PPR. It is not a debate thread.

He asked if anyone had the same experience, presumably within the context of Autism.

Donna Williams writes about our sensory perceptions remaining heightened to an almost primal level, like babies.

It's a developmental stage that we don't seem to surpass, as readily as NT people.

Autistic people are known to have more likelihood of sensory processing disorders and other sensory phenomena such as synasthaesia. The book is interesting, and speaks to my personal experiences.

I suggest you read it since you seem very interested in the topic at large.


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17 Feb 2021, 11:05 am

All this is like religion, really.

One cannot apply the "scientific method" to "spiritual" sorts of things.

Just like one cannot apply the "scientific method," frequently, to social science items.

I don't have "faith" in a god...nor in supernatural phenomena. But I'm not going to argue with someone on the basis of the "scientific method" when it comes to something which is not really in the realm of science.