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09 Feb 2008, 3:25 pm

Th is is sort of a spin off from the Munchausen syndrome thread.



This fall my boyfriend is going to get tested by this disability service that helps people with disability get jobs. They want to make sure he really does have a disability but they saw his school records. My boyfriend showed them to them so they see he does have a disability. What do they think those are, fake?
My boyfriend even has memory problems and he can't multitask well, he has to finish what he is doing first before he goes on to the next thing or get forgets to finish it if he leaves it unfinished. He also has balance problems, he has troubles remember names numbers etc. he is unable to remember street names and phone numbers and addresses so he has to have it all written down.

But my boyfriend told some some people fake those problems and I said "But they saw your school records, it shows you have a disability."
And I can't believe they still want to test him.

Is it also Munchausen syndrome that people fake having a disability?

I know my boyfriend isn't faking it. His school records prove it. Unforunitly he doesn't have any medical records about his disability. I don't know if his parents have them or if they did and they got burned in the house when it got caught on fire when he was little. They lost everything, especially baby picture of him so all he has left is this tiny picture of him in his father's arms because his dad had it in his wallet with him when the house burned down.


Before people accuse anyone of faking a disability, look in their school records, medical. If they don't have them because they were all destroyed, then I guess they're screwed. It be up to their families to support them.

I can understand why social security has to look into your records and all when you apply for SSI, SSDI, SSA, because anyone can sign up for it and say they have a disability just so they can get a little extra money so the social security administration has to see proof you do have a disability. My mother had to mail in all my medical records and records from my school, letters teachers wrote about me, I'm sure she mailed them my IEP records too. They even hire a doctor to evaluate you too despite your records.



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09 Feb 2008, 4:03 pm

Hello Spokane Girl,

This is actually very very common. People faking schizophrenia for sympathy.

And yea people faking autism for sympathy.

And more. For SSI income.

And at a deeper level. To excape their real problems and instead take on fake problems. To escape reality.

This is the realm of psychological inquiry. It's a serious disorder/illness itself.

I know of many many many cases of people faking being mute for these reasons. To escape the world.

Above all to get symptathy

And above all to give them something new to do. The alternative - really REALLY bad, including hospitalization - they can't take reality.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY CREATIVE WAY OF DEALING WITH REALITY. An illness too. But creative also. Kind of misleading to people though. Dishonest. Deceptive. But if it's good for the person, helping he or she, then well i guess it's ok, but getting SSI income and fiancial and social services from it would bE illegal of course. Immoral? I don't think so, hm.



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09 Feb 2008, 4:16 pm

people fake it to feel sorry for them, recive benefits etc.


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09 Feb 2008, 4:16 pm

Yeah, adults are held to a higher standard than children for proof of disability. When I went to get accommodations at my college neither school records from any time, nor medical records from more than a couple years back, would do - I needed current medical records. Their reasoning was that disabilities "fluctuate" over time and they need an up-to-date diagnosis.

Of course I don't really believe that, but apparently they're justified in asking for this.



09 Feb 2008, 4:29 pm

richardbenson wrote:
people fake it to feel sorry for them, recive benefits etc.



And also to escape prison or maybe from getting in trouble with the law when they commit a crime because they think the police will just let them go once they think they are mentally impaired.


Even men with MR have been accused of faking it in court while they were being charged with a crime they committed for murder. So records had to be shown in court to prove the defendant isn't faking it. They even talk to the defendants family and ask about their background and they are shown the medical records. Some have even called their schools they went to when they were kids.



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09 Feb 2008, 4:44 pm

It's because there's no real medical scientific test that can detect autism. Autism/AS is only dxed by psychiatries. People would stop able to fake them if only REAL brain doctors can diagnose autism/AS.

Psychiatry , in my opinion, is a pseudoscientific profession that benefits the pharmaceutical industry.



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09 Feb 2008, 4:51 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
It's because there's no real medical scientific test that can detect autism. Autism/AS is only dxed by psychiatries. People would stop able to fake them if only REAL brain doctors can diagnose autism/AS.

Psychiatry , in my opinion, is a pseudoscientific profession that benefits the pharmaceutical industry.


/agree

If you trust the DSM-IV definition of aspergers blindly, a lot of social misfit NTs would fit and a lot of aspies wouldnt, especially the older ones cause they tend to be a bit social.

In my personal opinion the number of official misdiagnosis among wrongplaneteers is above 30%. It's so out of control.


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09 Feb 2008, 4:59 pm

richardbenson wrote:
people fake it to feel sorry for them, recive benefits etc.


Or just have an excuse to act like a jerk or a moron.



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09 Feb 2008, 5:17 pm

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If you trust the DSM-IV definition of aspergers blindly, a lot of social misfit NTs would fit and a lot of aspies wouldnt, especially the older ones cause they tend to be a bit social.


The DSM-IV, ICD-10, and Gillberg's criteria doesn't even consider ToM defecits or central coherence...

1 in 150 seems awfully high a number. However, Inventor estimates the number is probably around 1 in 50; his estimate does match up with Baron Simon Cohens AQ test and 2% of those scoring a 32 or higher and roughly 2/3 of that 2% meeting the threshold DSM-IV criteria for AS/HFA, while leaving the tally unnaccounted for sufficiently to include individuals with AS/HFA that would score below a 32.

But that then begs the question, is the criteria psychiatrists use to conclude AS/HFA wrong? A therapist that my friend knows told him that I fit the criteria(and he told me this), yet I don't have anything that could be considered 'impaired' to such a degree that I would require assistance to survive! Some individuals who are diagnosed as HFA/AS have to feel that way. But does that mean these individuals aren't HFA/AS then?

At least PET scans are scientific. Observation along with an account of family history, OTOH, isn't.



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09 Feb 2008, 7:23 pm

I thought I was a 'faker' for a while. But I found out the hard way that you can't really ignore AS.


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09 Feb 2008, 7:44 pm

God bless the Onion


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09 Feb 2008, 7:46 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
Psychiatry , in my opinion, is a pseudoscientific profession that benefits the pharmaceutical industry.


I think that my anti-anxiety pills have helped me.

The pills were cheap.



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09 Feb 2008, 7:52 pm

I'll second what Scumsuckingdouchbag said. PET scans are more reliable.


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09 Feb 2008, 7:55 pm

i think people faking disabilities is the ULTIMATE INSULT :x :x :x


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09 Feb 2008, 7:57 pm

If you must fake a disability then i hope you BECOME disabled... If you fake being in a wheelchair due to spinal cord injury, then i shall sever your spinal cord... fakers make me sick.


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09 Feb 2008, 8:22 pm

Most people fake AS.