Airports observing for overly nervous, deceptive...ASD Card?

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Felinity
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30 Jul 2008, 1:47 am

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/200 ... ening.kxan

I'm not wanting to overly frighten anyone here by posting this, but just feel that a card explaining ASD/Autism might be handy to have in this type of situation.. if ever we are questioned for acting differently, is there a card like that to show authorities? If so, where can I find this card? is there a link, so that I can print one out and keep with me in the back of my wallet somewhere?

This would help explain to them if they felt that we were acting atypical compared to most
people, so that we wouldn't possbilty be interpreted as appearing suspicious. Airport
employees and probably government employees at courthouses, etc.. are going to be
receiving at least ONE week's training to detect differences in behavior that may indicate a
potential terrorist.. Anyone acting overly nervous, suspicious or possibly even noticeably different may
be pulled aside for questioning.. A card would be great to have at that moment.. and then they should understand..

I think it is more difficult living with an ASD or LD (Learning Disability) or being different in this society. I myself have personally experienced a kindof prejudice, if you will.. I'm not being paranoid -- I just think that this country itself has become increasingly paranoid since 9/11 and is NOT kind to those who
are naturally different from the norm.. I feel as though this society is getting LESS
tolerant.. at least that's how it felt while I lived in North Carolina.. Maybe it is just take on
things..

I wonder if it came down to it and I was pulled aside for looking or acting eccentric or
something different, (which occasionally I think I must do -- but am unaware exactly what
I'm doing that makes people think I'm different.. ) I wonder, IF I had some type of card explaining
about Autistic spectrum disorders, it might make my life at that moment A LOT easier?

I wonder if there is a card that is the size of a wallet that might be laminated and explain ASD symptoms.. so that authorities would understand...?

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30 Jul 2008, 2:03 am

my self has asperger/autism neclace dont know where i got it but ill look at it... 8)


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30 Jul 2008, 2:21 am

Just travel half-drunk.



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30 Jul 2008, 2:31 am

http://www.aspergerinfo.com/ascard.htm here u go :D 8)


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30 Jul 2008, 3:26 am

Hmm, do you really think a card would help in such a situation?
It's just a printed piece of cardboard, not even official in any form. If some sec guard has made up his mind to search your luggage, because of you "behaving strange", that won't stop him I guess. Anyway, worst case scenario: He search your suitcase, asks some questions and that's it.
Nothing to make me happy, but not tat bad either. At least at moment, since you're right, that since 9/11 the US is getting more & more paranoid, mainly because some people seem to see some profit in it.


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30 Jul 2008, 3:36 am

I don't get the over-the-top security measures. Yeah, yeah - I'm really gonna hijack a plane with a pair of nail clippers.
Hey, careful, I might accidentally put a hole in the side of the plane with my deadly sharp pen!

Yeesh...



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30 Jul 2008, 5:38 am

Ishmael wrote:
I don't get the over-the-top security measures. Yeah, yeah - I'm really gonna hijack a plane with a pair of nail clippers.
Hey, careful, I might accidentally put a hole in the side of the plane with my deadly sharp pen!

Yeesh...


They actually let ME travel with LANCETS! They COULD conceivably be VERY dangerous! They only have a 1/8" needle, but they could cause a nasty cut, or infect someone. Of course, I would never use them fo that. My keys, or possibly my FINGERNAILS could be just as dangerous.

"If you're not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about." What a STUPID thing to say! I act ODD! Some IDIOTS get upset, and want to make a federal case out of it.(An American saying that is NOT an exageration in this case!) I am not "worried". I just DON'T like being delayed, queried, touched, etc...

I doubt an AS or autism card would help. The TSA is made up of idiots that think they are SMART!



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30 Jul 2008, 7:40 am

If I've had a more than stressful flight, I've been questioned by airport people for appearing over jittery. I have a USB stick that I wear around my neck in unfamiliar places which explains that I have Asperger's, and other medical conditions. I bought a 1 GB stick and just made a word file with my medical conditions, one for emergency contacts, and one for all of my doctors and medications that I may be taking.

It's been helpful a couple of times.


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30 Jul 2008, 7:57 am

I have an National Autistic Society card with my name on it and stuff. It explains my behaviour.


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30 Jul 2008, 9:06 am

Felinity wrote:
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employees and probably government employees at courthouses, etc.. are going to be
receiving at least ONE week's training to detect differences in behavior that may indicate a
potential terrorist..

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I saw a report a few years ago how computers can predict the likelihood of criminal behaviour by analysing peoples body language (via security cameras)



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30 Jul 2008, 9:15 am

Airports use all sorts of weird and bizarre things to screen people for Super Secret Special Security Check. I figured out a few months ago when I flew out to Santa Cruz. My boarding pass got stamped SSSS which apparently means Super Secret Special Security Check.

I was told that it was because of my name. It's a weird name and it looks foreign, so they thought I needed to be screened, not once, not twice, not even three times, but 4 times which meant that every single airport I stopped in, I got the super secret special security check treatment.


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30 Jul 2008, 9:28 am

yes and if u use card like that or similar its also handy when dealing with polices and acsually saved me from getting arested wew days ago because my hand started shaking when taking license


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30 Jul 2008, 9:43 am

PilotPirx wrote:
Anyway, worst case scenario: He search your suitcase, asks some questions and that's it.


That's not worst-case. I know someone whose friend/colleague went to the airport to pick up a friend, and was wearing an unusual electronic nametag from her job. Suddenly she had guns pointed at her and she was thrown in jail. As a result, the school she worked for had to issue detailed instructions to participants in their conferences (one of which happens to be on computers that can be worn on the body) on what to do when traveling to America to avoid being seen as terrorists.

And I think a man having a manic episode (but who bore no actual resemblance to a terrorist) was shot at an American airport.

There's also one international thing going on where they were training police in at least the UK and America, to look for specific signs that would point to a terrorist. However, most of them pointed also to many autistic or neurologically atypical people. The advice given was to shoot the person in the head if they showed most of those signs.


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30 Jul 2008, 11:02 am

I think ASD cards can come into handy.

This is an autism alert card from the NAS: http://www.nas.org.uk/content/1/c4/62/32/AlertCard.pdf


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30 Jul 2008, 4:21 pm

anbuend wrote:
PilotPirx wrote:
Anyway, worst case scenario: He search your suitcase, asks some questions and that's it.


That's not worst-case. I know someone whose friend/colleague went to the airport to pick up a friend, and was wearing an unusual electronic nametag from her job. Suddenly she had guns pointed at her and she was thrown in jail. As a result, the school she worked for had to issue detailed instructions to participants in their conferences (one of which happens to be on computers that can be worn on the body) on what to do when traveling to America to avoid being seen as terrorists.

And I think a man having a manic episode (but who bore no actual resemblance to a terrorist) was shot at an American airport.

There's also one international thing going on where they were training police in at least the UK and America, to look for specific signs that would point to a terrorist. However, most of them pointed also to many autistic or neurologically atypical people. The advice given was to shoot the person in the head if they showed most of those signs.


Idiots! What is the world coming to? Those people are the real terrorists.



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30 Jul 2008, 4:27 pm

This is ridiculous. About as ridiculous as body language experts who go on air to claim someone is guilty because they weren't crying in a normal manner.