When you hear "A world record is broken!", then...

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05 Apr 2009, 3:32 am

you really broke your records?

In Mozart and the Whale(2005), she, who has AS, really did.

In my case, I sometimes maybe recognize words literally, but not everytime.

and though I misunderstand a conversation, I notify my mistake at least after the conversation ends.

If his metaphor is cliche I haven't heard, I learn that phrases by rote.

Thus cliche metaphor doesn't make me hard.

(so I could pass the language exam without problems during the school age.
also, I see every people on WP have no problem when they read and write posts.)



The only thing makes me perplexed is the creative metaphor derived from the situation where I belong such as a joke, so sometimes I believe jokes as a real.
(That is, words I haven't heard or I rarely heard)

But I doubt NT person may have the same problem.

Do you think it is the unique characteristic of AS? (or it just describes a matter of degree??)


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05 Apr 2009, 11:00 am

I know that the word "record" has two meanings, so I wouldn't take that expression as literally as she did.


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05 Apr 2009, 11:07 am

I wonder whether that story is highly overstated. I think it's a problem of language knowledge, not AS.


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05 Apr 2009, 11:08 am

No, it seemed quite clear to me there was two meanings.
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05 Apr 2009, 11:56 am

Interesting thread. I also wondered about that bit in the movie. When I first saw it, it occurred to me that ANY child- autistic or NT- could misunderstand that phrase, IF they had never heard it used in that context before and didn´t know what it meant. Children misunderstand many things, and always tend to associate with what they know- which is usually literal. That was the sort of thing I sometimes misunderstood when I was a child- (though I don´t remember misunderstanding that one, in particular). I would not, however, have gone and broken any records, as I knew that breaking records was wrong.


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05 Apr 2009, 12:43 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlOMimp9KDY[/youtube]

this is the clip about what i'm saying

i want to know your opinions about her behavior.


If she knew another meaning of 'record', but misunderstood it, and broke it, it would be a problem of 'AS'.

but,

If she didn't know another meaning of 'record' and broke it, it would be a problem of 'language knowledge'.

Any child could do it including NT child.

Children sometimes misunderstand words which are extremely easy to understand for adult.


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05 Apr 2009, 2:34 pm

I think what Isa did was normal for any five year old. She only knew one meaning of the word. She knew a record was something you listen to. She didn't know record also meant like I don't know how to explain it.

I first heard "Broke a record" on TV when I was about nine and I didn't understand it. I pictured a record getting broken. I think I heard it on Rugrats, I'm not sure though.

In the book, Mary really did do that when she was five years old and her brother did it with her. I just thought it was a normal typical kid thing since they all take things literal when they are that young. I even heard it's normal for eight year olds to take things literal too. Tell a seven year old to break a leg, they will get confused. Some might ask "WhY?" or "What does it mean?" vs an aspie seven year old might not say a word or might ask "Why?" thinking they are actually being told to break someone's leg.