Oxitocin ENDS asperger life!

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JadedMantis
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25 Feb 2010, 4:42 am

Of course there are the side effects:
http://www.reuniting.info/science/oxytocin_nasal_spray_health_bonding

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25 Feb 2010, 10:14 am

Next thing people will say is that snake oil can "cure" Asperger's syndrome. :roll: If you don't mind, I'll chipmunk my meds and sneak the pills down the toilet. Gimmie a break here. Does EVERYONE want to turn us into medicated, mindless zombies? Or people that can "parrot" human social skills? What if we don't WANT to interact with anyone?

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25 Feb 2010, 12:08 pm

DeaconBlues wrote:

The cited "study" had a total of 13 subjects, and used photographs rather than actual live human faces.

Am I the only one that sees this as more of a press release than a news story?

You're right, it sounds a bit of a gimic.

I'd love it if there were an oxytocin tablet or something that you could just take before entering social situations (like valium), but the effects wouldn't last long enough to affect you for long periods.

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25 Feb 2010, 12:44 pm

Lene wrote:

I'd love it if there were an oxytocin tablet or something that you could just take before entering social situations (like valium), but the effects wouldn't last long enough to affect you for long periods.

http://www.antiaging-systems.com/iassto ... tocin.html

Coarse I would have to wonder if it would make it up to the brain. I also wonder if you could turn one into a transdermal and apply it to the neck?

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25 Feb 2010, 12:53 pm

a better title for this thread would be, "getting high makes aspie's relax!"

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25 Feb 2010, 2:23 pm

Getting high makes me relax.

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25 Feb 2010, 7:28 pm

that's the point. if you're getting high and it stresses you out, you shouldn't be using that substance

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25 Feb 2010, 10:33 pm

Oh computerlove...

"Oxitocin ENDs Aperger life"? For a second there I thought you meant oxitocin had killed an aspie, or is a poison somehow only effective on aspies. Sigh...

I know your type. You like having a disability. You like not being normal. You've probably chalked everything in your life up to Aspergers. You use Aspergers as your crutch. Now, I understand being upset about the type of cure autism speaks researchs. But getting upset about this? If this works completely, then it'll take away your crutch and your broken leg, and leave you to stand on your own two feet.

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25 Feb 2010, 11:55 pm

Somehow doubt it would make you not-autistic... in fact, Im sure your a big boy by now and aint noone going to make you take the medication. Me, I gave LDN a try just recently which is one of the snake-oil treatments for autism. I think it has helped some for the autism bit, but then again it may just be that I can actually breath out my nose for the first in my life too.... among atleast one other problem it has affected.

I know there are certain parts of me missing that I doubt a squirt up the nose would fix, and even if it did, I could just quit squirting if I didnt like what I became.

Personally, Id love nothing more to get ahold of some just to see, partly because my biology has become a nice little puzzle for me. Also because I dont think anyone should have to be like me if they dont want to. Hell, personally, Id like to not be me, although I believe there is some good in what I am.

Side effects listed for nasal/injection listed have been: hemorrhage in the brain and uterus, increased blood pressure, heart rate and cardiac output, uterine contractions.

Sure beats the side effects of Suicide from the drugs they wanted to keep me on.

Too bad that since it would have to be Rx as a off-label use, it will be hell finding a doctor to get some, since most doctors dont know how to prescribe unless theyre reading off the back of a pen they were sent. And I think the DAN doctors who might prescribe it are expensive... and a bit quacky.

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26 Feb 2010, 3:07 am

Moony wrote:

"Oxitocin ENDs Aperger life"? For a second there I thought you meant oxitocin had killed an aspie, or is a poison somehow only effective on aspies. Sigh...

I know your type. You like having a disability. You like not being normal. You've probably chalked everything in your life up to Aspergers. You use Aspergers as your crutch. Now, I understand being upset about the type of cure autism speaks researchs. But getting upset about this? If this works completely, then it'll take away your crutch and your broken leg, and leave you to stand on your own two feet.

Yes you're right! a genius, wow, 10 days in the forum and you have completely described me, congrats, keep up the good work!

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I know your type too Mooney, grow some balls and get a life instead of guessing about people you don't know and that don't give a sh*t about your sorry life.
You are so insecure of yourself and your sexuality that you have to constantly talk about other people, maybe that way no one will notice your lack of nuts.

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26 Feb 2010, 10:38 am

Illite wrote:

Alot of those side effects are the same as ANY hormone therapy.
I honestly am interested in this. Once I was on the right doses for HRT, many of my ASD negative effects significantly decreased. For example, I rarely smiled, now it seems I smile pretty frequently. Basically, my body language became more expressive. I am still not completely reciprocal, but the "flat effect" was reduced.

I think HRT has been completely underestimated as a way to treat psychiatric and developmental issues, because it is more in the realm of OB/GYN and endocronologists than it is psychiatrists. It is something that requires special attention. My body has major hormonal issues because I am IS, HRT helped me alot, and I am not shocked that this one hormone can have a positive benefit, especially one that people with ASD usually has a deficit in. I also don't think HRT has the same negative effects as psychiatric drugs. Hormones ease themselves into the body better, and they also are easier to phase out.

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26 Feb 2010, 7:08 pm

Moony wrote:

I know your type. You like having a disability. You like not being normal. You've probably chalked everything in your life up to Aspergers. You use Aspergers as your crutch. Now, I understand being upset about the type of cure autism speaks researchs. But getting upset about this? If this works completely, then it'll take away your crutch and your broken leg, and leave you to stand on your own two feet.

Autism is not a disability. Ask Simon Baron-Cohen, or Tony Attwood, or any of the other researchers. Autistics are different, not necessarily defective, and a lot of autistic characteristics are correlated with intelligence, creativity, etc.

And yeah, I like not being normal. I see no reason why one would envy "normal" people.

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26 Feb 2010, 9:03 pm

computerlove wrote:

Moony wrote:

Yes you're right! a genius, wow, 10 days in the forum and you have completely described me, congrats, keep up the good work!

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

Wow, at least 7 cheap shots in one short post. I'm impressed!

Yes you're right! a genius, wow, "10 days" I've been in the forum and you have completely described me, congrats, keep up the good work!

Goes both ways mate. I'm not going to specifically address your post because it actually had nothing to do with what I said, just inintelligent insults. See ya!

Well, got that over with. I'll admit, I have no envy for the "normal" either. But not to the extent that I go up in arms at the mention of anyone trying to make things easier for us.

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28 Feb 2010, 5:28 pm

waltur wrote:

a better title for this thread would be, "getting high makes aspie's relax!"

This.

It would be like weed for aspies lol, oxytocin would be dealed in the streets outside NAS (national autistic society) branches after meetings.
Or you'd get aspies sitting in a circle passing round their "joint" of oxytocin to get high and s**t maaannnn

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28 Feb 2010, 9:45 pm

Illite wrote:

Side effects listed for nasal/injection listed have been: hemorrhage in the brain and uterus, increased blood pressure, heart rate and cardiac output, uterine contractions.

Isn't Oxytocin that stuff they use in maternity wards to induce labor in pregnant women? If so, WTF does it have to do with Aspergers?

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01 Mar 2010, 8:57 am

Roxas_XIII wrote:

Illite wrote:

Side effects listed for nasal/injection listed have been: hemorrhage in the brain and uterus, increased blood pressure, heart rate and cardiac output, uterine contractions.

Isn't Oxytocin that stuff they use in maternity wards to induce labor in pregnant women? If so, WTF does it have to do with Aspergers?

Oxytocin is a hormone found in human breast milk, among other things.

Your body produces it naturally in certain situations.

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