If people w/ AS are smart, and AS affects all of the brain
wouldn't that make the idea of some kind of "cure" a bad thing? If AS affects all of the brain, and people with AS are naturally either more logical or more intuitive than most (therefore making us better problem solvers than others in different situations) wouldn't a "cure" cause us to be less so?
This is a good point. Never thought of it that way.
Maybe make it a voluntary cure like they did in X-men? Sometimes the problems might not be worth the boost in intelligence/differential problem solving skills for most people.
Overall, though, you're right, it could weaken society - especially if they started giving the cure to a lot of scientists and computer programmers o.O.
Its not all IQ
Much of it is the focus,
normal people study then get burned out and need a break now and then,
people with AS once they latch onto a subject they like it becomes
all consuming, thinking on the subject day and night and even in our dreams,
the focus is so strong hardly a stone in thought goes unturned.
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Have you actually had an NT tell you they were afraid of you because you're _too_ smart? I'm not talking about being afraid to talk to you or intimidated to discuss your topic of interest. I'm talking real fear. This sounds like autisnob propaganda to me.
I tend to believe that most NTs mean well and want to cure us because they believe our lives would be better as NT. They might be right in some circumstances.
Have you actually had an NT tell you they were afraid of you because you're _too_ smart? I'm not talking about being afraid to talk to you or intimidated to discuss your topic of interest. I'm talking real fear. This sounds like autisnob propaganda to me.
I tend to believe that most NTs mean well and want to cure us because they believe our lives would be better as NT. They might be right in some circumstances.
^Couldn't have put it better. I agree.
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I would certainly be concerned that a "cure" for autism would erase some of my intelligence since in school I've done a *lot* better than many so-called "neurotypicals".
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Cure does need to be defined. Social intelligence? So a graph of those who know everything about everybody, and talk about it to everyone, and those who know of things, books, machines?
What is to be cured?
It seems to me to be the same as popular, being someone all the social people like, but I doubt they could define why.
Unpopular lumps everything from mass murders to people who would rather be alone.
Popular has a runaway end of sports, celebraties, politics, all beyond the life of the person, and making no differance in that life.
Unpopular is my study of printer technologies, which has great meaning and application in my life, several multi billion dollar industries, with new applications coming along that will change the way things are done.
Practical and useful knowledge takes focus and persistance to become functional, and it has to work.
Social knowledge is not fact based, and it is ever changing, popular, so it is for those who play a game without meaning, except speaking in code to other players.
If a cure means talking who is trading players in some sports league, or Hollywood, I will pass.
One concept of cure would be to make the other end become reality based. That they should be able to speak a science and technology language, and discuss things that do or have existed.
My view is the money and energy put toward sports should first be applied to solving problems in the real world. What about them dogs? Did you hear about Paris? Have you been saved? Do not fit in my reality, and is Sports Card collectors ruled the world, I would be on their hit list.
People complain about people who have more interest in things than in people. They are dependant on social support even when it is meaningless.
A University education is about like a second go at high school. It will not satisify those who want an in depth knowledge of a field, and worse for those who want to know where a field fits in overall knowledge. It is a place for dances and football, and making connections with people you might see again in the workforce. Join a frat, gain an instant network of people.
Someone will always be the least popular, so what happens if our type is cured? In groups define themselves by out groups, who would be the new out group?
The idea of cure is new, something has to be done because geeks and nerds are taking over business and industry. IT does not hire Frat Brothers, the system has gone wrong! Even if you played ball for Ole Miss, if you do not understand the technology, there is no job for you.
Highly social sales people are being replaced by web pages. Their networks are breaking down, TV is no longer the dominate media, and the web cannot be controlled.
They cannot chat their way into the new direction. We on the other hand are naturals at cyberspace, and thrive there. I find bliss in the lack of human contact. I vote with my dollars, and buy most things online.
I think we are being blamed for a much deeper social transition, the loss of control by social groups.
We were excluded from their game, now they are excluded from ours. Walmart destroyed retailing, small town downtowns, and technology is rearranging markets. out of sight, where they cannot use social manipulation.
The Autistic Spectrum does cover a lot, but they seem to focus on the low function end, and call for extirmination. I think it is a reaction to the Technogeek Era.
They cannot understand us, they do not make sense to the tech viewpoint, so we are socially impaired, because their manipulation does not work?
Their part of the web is a business, the page looks like the ad in the phone book, and many say give you name, and a long list of information, and a sales person will contact you.
The sites I use are information rich, tell all about products and pricing, and have a forum where customers can discuss the trade. They post help, tips, and educate you about how to do it, even if it does not involve anything they sell.
A recent trend I have noticed is posting what used to be competitiors, with good reviews of what they do better. Industry working as a group to build customers as a group.
Identity group marketing works. In my line of photography and digital printing I have several groups who usually have already posted the answer to my questions, and are waiting for me to come up with a new one. Suppliers who sought to keep everyone dumb, exploit their customers, are fading fast. Mutual support networks are rising.
Look what Alex has built from alienated loners. He does not even have a product or service.
Customer mutual self service, and it works. Here we are cured.
As it is defined, here we are normal. We are social, do care, but only as we want to.
We just needed the business model that met our needs.
Web marketing freed me from those who sought to improve their chances by diminishing mine.
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pro curists nearly always talk of possible cures for autism [the traditional name for classic autism],not AS,many dont even know what AS is or that its 'an autism'.
unlikely they will ever come up with a universal cure in this life time anyway,seeing that there's likely to be many different causes come up,they would need to be many different cures.
am pro curist through choice [dont support killing before birth and the idea of forced cures but do not believe they will happen],and would never support the idea of curing those who do not want/need it,it is something that would not affect most aspies anyway.
am think better treatments,better meds etc will come along [some fully NV Autistics can already become verbal with some meds],
that will make the idea of cures look overrated by the time it ever comes [if it ever comes].
and agreed with Danielismyname,
AS is not another word for super intelligence just like AD isn't another word for mental retardation,am do know of one person diagnosed with it,who has IQ76,the man who killed Jill Dando [george barry? barry george?].
think in uk,borderline MR,is a point below his,.
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No, AS is not a brain condition, its a permanent state of anxiety. Getting cured feels a lot like recovering from getting drunk, you just gain a lot of control over yourself, your brain is completely untouched... at least in my curing scheme, i guess some chemical "cure" would surely have side effects to the brain.
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