Help neaded must start new diet!
I have just found out I am diabetic and need help making a new food plan. For years I was border line and recently started having low levels in the 50s. Here's my problem I require 6000 calories a day or Ill start losing weight. Meals are not the problem I need snacks that I can take to work that have protein, complex carbs, a little fat and a little simple sugars. Ideas?
I don't know anything about diabetic diets. So I can't help you there. I think hiring a nutritionist might be good, one who deals with diabetics. You might learn something who knows.
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Are you sure about the 6,000 calories? The average man needs 2,500calories so unless you are The Hulk that seems quite a lot!
Can your doctor refer you to a dietician to help you? That would be ideal. In the meantime here is the advice that the NHS gives about diabetic diets - this is similar to the way my diabetic friend eats and she rarely becomes unwell.
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Is your hypoglycemia permanent or temporary?
If you were borderline for that long, chances are that it is still reversible. If that is the case, you are better off attempting to reverse it rather than just accepting it and living with it. Reversing it will require a stricter diet for the moment, but might be worth it long term if it means you end up back in the normal range.
Also, why the 6000 calories a day? Or did you mean kilojoules? Are you particularly active? Do you have another underlying medical condition that causes you not to absorb food properly?
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I don't know anything about diabetic diets. So I can't help you there. I think hiring a nutritionist might be good, one who deals with diabetics. You might learn something who knows.
Phelps was eating something like 10000 - 12000 calories a day rumor has it. A 300 lbs strongman is at about 6k with 3 - 5 sessions of heavy resistance training.
I am currently down to 135lbs/61kg my average weight is 150- 155/68-70kg I am 5'7"/170cm . I am active 19 hours out of the day not counting meals. Is of yet it is still unknown if it is permanent or temporary. Yes I mean calories all preliminary test say no to a malabsorption problem. I need smacks with a good balance of complex carbohydrates fats protein but cant think of any thing that's portable.
Make your own protein bars from a mix of grains, protein powder and a flavor infused oil.
Boiled eggs and some form of cereal taken with heavy cream would work.
Also, get a shaker bottle, make protein shakes from raw eggs, berries/fruits, protein powder, all mixed in heavy cream. You could also buy a bag of gainer from a sports nutrition store.
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If you're a hard gainer, you need 6000 calories a day.
Try to stick to a diet of Chicken, rice, pasta, fish, weight gain shakes. Following something like this would diet would be best and you can modify the amount of portions or grams to suit your caloric intake needs.
Morning
4 Whole grain bread with a tablespoon of bran sprinkled on them, no butter or sauces.
Mid Morning Snack
Sugar and fat free weight gain shake, Matrix Weight gainer is a good one.
Lunch
Two hundred grams of pasta mixed with a tin of tuna.
Mid Afternoon Snack
150 grams of rice.
Dinner
Three pieces of fish without batter, peas and potatoes.
Mid Evening Snack
3 chicken breasts and 150 grams of rice.
Try to stick to a diet of Chicken, rice, pasta, fish, weight gain shakes. Following something like this would diet would be best and you can modify the amount of portions or grams to suit your caloric intake needs.
Morning
4 Whole grain bread with a tablespoon of bran sprinkled on them, no butter or sauces.
Mid Morning Snack
Sugar and fat free weight gain shake, Matrix Weight gainer is a good one.
Lunch
Two hundred grams of pasta mixed with a tin of tuna.
Mid Afternoon Snack
150 grams of rice.
Dinner
Three pieces of fish without batter, peas and potatoes.
Mid Evening Snack
3 chicken breasts and 150 grams of rice.
This makes no sense, why would you recommend someone who needs 6k calories and is a hardgainer to eat what is in essence a cutting diet? There is what, 3 grams of fat in that entire day plan when the gainer is not counted? Also, the Matrix gainer contains a ton of both fat and carbs. Swap the tuna for bacon, make sure the fish is salmon slathered in butter and sour cream, swap the chicken breasts for pork chops, steak, or some other "real" type of meat.
It could just be that I don't understand this diet plan though.
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Try to stick to a diet of Chicken, rice, pasta, fish, weight gain shakes. Following something like this would diet would be best and you can modify the amount of portions or grams to suit your caloric intake needs.
Morning
4 Whole grain bread with a tablespoon of bran sprinkled on them, no butter or sauces.
Mid Morning Snack
Sugar and fat free weight gain shake, Matrix Weight gainer is a good one.
Lunch
Two hundred grams of pasta mixed with a tin of tuna.
Mid Afternoon Snack
150 grams of rice.
Dinner
Three pieces of fish without batter, peas and potatoes.
Mid Evening Snack
3 chicken breasts and 150 grams of rice.
This makes no sense, why would you recommend someone who needs 6k calories and is a hardgainer to eat what is in essence a cutting diet? There is what, 3 grams of fat in that entire day plan when the gainer is not counted? Also, the Matrix gainer contains a ton of both fat and carbs. Swap the tuna for bacon, make sure the fish is salmon slathered in butter and sour cream, swap the chicken breasts for pork chops, steak, or some other "real" type of meat.
It could just be that I don't understand this diet plan though.
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Well you can go with that if you want.
Try to stick to a diet of Chicken, rice, pasta, fish, weight gain shakes. Following something like this would diet would be best and you can modify the amount of portions or grams to suit your caloric intake needs.
Morning
4 Whole grain bread with a tablespoon of bran sprinkled on them, no butter or sauces.
Mid Morning Snack
Sugar and fat free weight gain shake, Matrix Weight gainer is a good one.
Lunch
Two hundred grams of pasta mixed with a tin of tuna.
Mid Afternoon Snack
150 grams of rice.
Dinner
Three pieces of fish without batter, peas and potatoes.
Mid Evening Snack
3 chicken breasts and 150 grams of rice.
This makes no sense, why would you recommend someone who needs 6k calories and is a hardgainer to eat what is in essence a cutting diet? There is what, 3 grams of fat in that entire day plan when the gainer is not counted? Also, the Matrix gainer contains a ton of both fat and carbs. Swap the tuna for bacon, make sure the fish is salmon slathered in butter and sour cream, swap the chicken breasts for pork chops, steak, or some other "real" type of meat.
It could just be that I don't understand this diet plan though.
The point isn't for them to be overly good fats, but to add calories to a diet that a 80 lbs woman would starve to death on. At the very least get rid of the chicken and replace it with beef and pork.
One chicken breast contains about 200 calories.
180 grams of rice, contains 242.
Whole grain bread, contains about 35 calories per slice.
Tuna is about 220 per can.
Pasta is about 300 calories.
So, with the diet I quoted, he'd be eating some massive amounts of chicken, tuna, rice, pasta and whole grain bread. The only thing that could be deemed "calorie rich" is the fish, if that fish is salmon which contains about 400 calories per 100 grams. The whole day there minus the gainer is about:
140 calories for breakfast, I'll round it to 160 for the bran.
500 calories for Lunch.
200 calories as his afternoon snack.
Dinner with I'm guessing 300 grams of fish, is 1200 calories, about 1500 if you add in 300 from potatoes/peas.
So, total without the gainer the proposed meal plan here is about 2200, or a little over 1/3 of what he requires per day. One of the Matrix shakes adds about 1000 in whole milk, which brings it to 3200, or slightly over half of what he needs. The sheer volume he'd have to eat of this food, would result in him not having time for much else.
*PS* The OP is diabetic, it may be a bit silly to put him on a mostly carbohydrate based diet.
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What I eat for breakfast every morning is 3 servings of oatmeal, 4 eggs and 8oz of oj. I use 1% milk for the oatmeal, about 12 oz. That is about 1000 calories. Hows that? Cholesterol wise studies have shown people that eat eggs every morning generally have lower cholesterol levels.
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Well you can go with that if you want.
Much better, now the OP just needs to get 5000 calories more, without getting excess carbohydrates since insulin control is very important to a diabetic. High fat, medium protein, low carb diets tend to work very well for diabetics, so the OP should focus on steamed vegetables, fatty fish, fatty beef (less than fatty fish though), some pork, eggs, whole milk/cream and perhaps throw in some oatmeal once a day since it has been shown to have positive effects for diabetics.
WOW! 6000 calories a day! Are you sure about that? That's an awful lot. What you can try if you have a microwave at work is oatmeal with a few raisins on top. There's also Cheerios.
Are you looking for stuff that doesn't require refrigeration? You can try grilled chicken if you have a refrigerator to put it in. There's hard boiled eggs. Pistachios are low fat. Sun flower seeds?
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Just a warning - rice or any grain or starch is one of the things that sends out blood sugar through the roof, only to have it come crashing down later, which is exactly what he needs to avoid. That means even if he is going to eat those things, it can't be just plain rice by itself, it needs to be paired with other things to avoid that huge high and crash.
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