Help neaded must start new diet!

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Well an easy snack is beef jerky, or any lunchmeats for that matter. The only problem with them is the sodium nitrate/nitrite isn't good for you.

As far as complex carbs, I'd have to recommend just making some whole wheat bread yourself, that or make like, Ezekiel bread out of sprouted grains and beans. The problem with commercial whole grain bread is 99% of it has high fructose corn syrup, and then soybean oil. Both not good for you. So if you know a good bakery that makes bread without corn syrup, you'd be good to go, but yeah. I don't know how "complex" of a carb this is, but for another snack, if you like chickpeas, go buy some chickpeas and soak them, and cook them in the oven. Basically, it's corn nuts made of chickpeas. Can do it with other beans, too.

Would it not be more sensible to sit down with a suitably qualified health professional, share your medical history and test results, and let them work out a diet plan for you?

Costs money.

Ah. I live in the UK, so tests and any required dietary advice/plan wouldn't cost anything on the NHS (National Health Service).

I also have a high mistrust of doctors, people look at them as if they're gods, and it's simply not the case. I look at them like car mechanics, I'll try to do all my own repairs that I can, and then go to them for things I cannot do. I believe also here, there's a very high incentive for doctors to prescribe drugs, when often times nutritional changes, activity changes or herbal supplements will solve the problem, generally without the side effects of prescription drugs.

So far Ive found a recipe for a sort of granola that has
per two oz serving 225 calories one bar
2%total fat
36% protein
17% carbs
28% fiber
with only 2 grams of simple sugar.
%=daily recommended at 2000 cal diet
It is temperature stable and good for two week when its made.

As for an nutritionist ect I currently do not have not health insurance the cost of the testing that I have recently had done are huge.
So Ill be doing a lot of the leg work my self to cut cost. Also am in agreement on most US Dr.s writing way to many scrips in general.
As for beef jerky I can by it in bulk from a friend who has free range cattle he could skip salting and seasoning for me.
I left out I hate rice with a passion but do eat wild rice that's really a natural grain and not rice.
I do have a fridge at work and a microwave.

How healthy is barley? I know it will put weight on most people and beef and barley soup from scratch sounds healthy
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TM wrote So, total without the gainer the proposed meal plan here is about 2200, or a little over 1/3 of what he requires per day. One of the Matrix shakes adds about 1000 in whole milk, which brings it to 3200, or slightly over half of what he needs. The sheer volume he'd have to eat of this food, would result in him not having time for much else. Yes I have hatted eating for a long time Ive caused the diabetes by cheating and drinking 4 liters of soda a day for "quick calories" at 340 calories each that had to be cut out. Another 500 calories of pure fat still need to be cut.

If you don't mind me asking, why do you want to cut fat from your diet? It's slowly digestible energy that largely doesn't cause blood sugar spikes, and high fat diets have been demonstrated to be positive for diabetics. Have you ever seen an Eskimo or a Masai tribesman with diabetes?

Diabetics means low GI carbs and very limited carbs, which leaves you fat and protein. You don't want to use protein primarily for energy since that can lead to heavy muscle catabolism if you fail to get enough nutrients. Fat is good for you.

Barley is a good choice. So is popcorn with no butter or margarine added. It's also easy to spice up popcorn without adding fat and calories. An air popper will pop it without adding extra fat.
Just be careful of added sugar in protein powders.

If you have diabetes then carbs aren't exactly what you should be eating. Cut out the grains and go for meats and vegetables. If the damage is still reversible then that should get you back to normal within a year.
Also you should think about replacing your daily carbs with fats. Regardless of your stance on the healthiness of fats, carbs are clearly the biggest threat to you at this moment.

Not remove it replace it with healthier fats, reduce bacon for lets say fish oils. Just tricky to do and sill meet my caloric needs.

Agreed. That was why I asked him if it was reversible in the first place.

Trying to meet your calorie needs would be hard, but I am sure you can find a way that it's doable.

The Dr. thinks I can be controlled by diet alone, but refuses to speculate weather its temporary or not. More over though has hinted it was up to me so temporary as long as I do my part.

The aim of the diet is to maximize protein intake whilst keeping fat and sugar intake to a low. Protein intake is more important, a 150 lb person needs 225 grams of protein per day yet only 2700 calories to maintain that weight, adding 500 calories to gain lean muscle.


Let's just review again.

Mid morning snack - Matrix weight gainer shakes have 1500 calories plus 50 grams of protein.

Lunch - 100 grams of pasta is 355 calories, 200 grams of pasta is 710 calories plus the tin of tuna which is 220 calories. - 930 calories plus 40 grams of protein per serving.

Dinner - Three pieces of fish would come to 60 grams of protein, 1200 calories at 60 grams grams of protein, 3 Jacket potatoes come to 15 grams of protein at 660 calories, 300 grams of peas would come to 15 grams of protein at 240 calories.

Late Night snack - 3 pieces of chicken comes to 75 grams at 250 calories.

That's already at 255 grams of protein, throw in a couple of protein bars or up the portions and you are easily hitting 300 grams of protein with minimum sugar and fat intake. Caloric intake isn't as important as protein intake. For a 150 lbs person, 2700 calories is required for maintenance and 225 grams of protein, adding to the caloric intake until the thread creator gains weight would be the key.

So let's work this out using the minimum portions I used.
Breakfast = 160 calories
Mid morning snack = 1500 calories
Lunch = 930 calories
Afternoon snack = 200 calories
Dinner = 2100 calories
Late Night Snack = 250 calories

That comes to 5140 according to the foods when I check per 100 grams with a minimum intake of fat and sugar plus you can also add a couple of protein bars which are 10 to 20 grams of protein per serving.

Last edited by Wolfheart on 22 Jun 2012, 5:56 am, edited 2 times in total.

100 grams of pasta shells have 353 calories while 100 grams of pasta twists have 354 calories. At least the pasta I'm using does, I don't know if the type of pasta you are using has less calories which may be the case.

I had a long reply written out for you, but failplanet stole it with one of those moronic "autism talks tv" "we are down" things that happen every 2 minutes on this site so here is the short version.

Carbs are not good for diabetics, especially not fast carbs, you're advising him to eat between 350 and 400 grams of fast carbs per day between the matrix shake, the rice, bread and pasta. His carbs should be no more than 10 - 15% of his caloric intake, and mostly stem from vegetables (non starchy), berries and a little bit of fruit. Secondly, I'm not sure what fish nutritional info you're dealing with, but the closes you can get with this http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/Label ... 169243.pdf is salmon at 600 for 3 pieces.

The protein intake is understandable and I agree, but I disagree on the nutrient breakdown. In my opinion the best would be to mainly get energy from fat, at about 70% of his daily caloric intake, 20% from protein, and 10% from carbs. Which breaks down to 4200 calories from fat (500g), 1200g from protein (300g) and 600 calories from carbs (150g) and I'd even be tempted to cut his carbs to under 100g per day.

I all ready screwed up and wasn't paying attention to how much fat vs protein ended up with hyperammonaemia excess amount of ammonia in the blood. Not enough water for a 90*f day working over black top and with the diet change and too much protein in one day. I was lethargic, had twitching of muscles, unable to think, and weird eye focusing issues. I will have to be more careful and figure out my daily menu ahead so this doesn't happen again. At first I didn't even realize that it was happening, people were having a hard time understanding me but that really isn't to out of the ordinary. I was aware that this could happen but not in a day, I thought it would be at least a week of high protein diet to cause it now I know.

PS thank you TM for not saying told you so.

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