A WP guide to getting women, by women.

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I wouldn't build a such idea from nowhere, but it's based from what I see in my surrounding.

So let's see, I have 5 close female friends (2 of them are 'had' now) - 4 extroverted, one introverted. They all work in ok jobs, one is a (divorced) single mom with a career, fairly financially independent so none pf them really need a man for financial support - they aren't the shallow type , it's not like they say outright "I just want a rich man!" all the time, it's not like this, but few incidents reveal how they care for money in men:

- Friend 1: I recall I was once showing a video of a friend's wealthy wedding to the single mom friend and she sighed saying "Oohh I really should marry a rich man to get a such wedding" , that's from someone who was got cheated by a rich husband who bought a whole apartment for his mistress. She also told me about her sister's relationship with a rich Egyptian man "he's married but he is very rich! he promised her to divorce his wife" (and this what happened later).

- Friend 2: She dragged once to a night outing to meet some friends at a restaurant, her friends got late 1 hr, the whole hour sounded like a date, her asking me typical-dating question, one of her late questions was "between us, how much do you earn?" - I said the true number but she didn't like "at your age you should earn more" she said (even tho it was three times more than the minimum wage), she typed something on her phone and her friends appeared in 5 minutes.

-Friend 3: She works as mid-senior secretary in a huge corporate, not the best job but it's fairly good, she had a lot suitors and she told me once about one suitor whom she liked a lot but rejected him because he works as security guard. She's now engaged to a doctor working in UK, their relationship is mostly by distance - she told me before few days of the engagement that he's a very nice guy and she admires his position and his achievements but she still doesn't feel anything for him, that was in October 2014, she told me the same a week ago on the phone. She even asked me what I think of her situation (engaged to nice good and wealthy but she doesn't love) and I simply keep refusing to give any advice, I literally told her "you're adult enough, you know what's best for you, I don't want my opinion to influence you to take a decision that you may regret later".

-Friend 4: She jokes a lot, one of the things she jokes a lot about though is when she sees a guy in a fancy car "Do you think he's single?" (joking tone), It means nothing if it was said once or twice but it reached hundreds of times.

Friend 5: A bit of disappointment for me tbh, this one had a serious crush on me: good morning texting, good night textings every single day and 10000s other texting , introducing me to her best friends, to her brother, inviting me to outings, activities, sometimes alones......it was so obvious that she didn't see just as friend, however things regressed to friendship after incompatibilities were revealed(I am agnostic, she's very devout muslim..etc), anywayyy..... two years later, she showed sudden interest toward my male friend whom his father recently died, I thought because they were virtually compatible in everything, then later my Friend 3 told me about a conversation between her and friend 5 telling her how she knew her father had a great wealth (he was stingy man) and his son got the biggest share. The guy friend knew later about this conversation (not from me, I never get engaged in gossip) and he told me about it and he told me how he rejected her after knowing that. Just two days ago, friend 5 was texting me and complaining how he blocked her on whatsapp and facebook.

There are so many such incidents even among coworkers and relatives, I only knew few striking exceptions, like that coworker who liked a guy significantly poorer than her and a once upon a time friend in her 30s who fell in love with an overage-looking chubby guy younger than her in 20s, college student and without any known financial prospect,- he got scared to go for her tho (years later he told me he doesn't regret it because he believed he was way not good enough for her), man, she was really a catch in everything. However, those are unicorn cases.

A lot of guys also tend to classify women by looks, but this is off topic now.

Sorry, Cafeaulait, but nobody does black-and-white thinking better than the people on this forum. Even though I am mostly NT, it's very ironic to hear an Aspie tell me that my thinking is black and white when Aspies specialize in, I dunno, thinking in a black-and-white way?

And sadly, black-and-white thinking is the best way to tackle subjects like this, because it has a basis in real life. Romance is the only area where there's not really any shades of gray.

My posts and my thinking come from my experiences and the experiences of millions of others. So while my posts seem bitter and misogynistic to you, they ring real true for me and others like me. So to dismiss what I'm saying as mere twaddle is basically telling me that my life and what I've witnessed and experienced myself is a lie.

What's that old phrase? Oh yeah, "my attitude is the result of my experiences, not the other way around."

The thing I don't get is, even with what I said all those hours ago in my last post, that I've noticed women either go for:

- the guy who can "do" things (aka, the human doings)

or

- the deadbeat who can do (mostly criminal) things, has no money or place of his own, but might have good social skills/physical power

There's almost no in-between and the ones who do end up with the in-betweeners usually do so because they feel like they're being forced to.

Funny thing, that.

After years of witnessing this, and witnessing really stupid men who go for women for stupid reasons, I learned that, really, gay people have it right. They love each other for the right reasons, usually, and at least with them, you either get two logical people together, or two emotional people together, so they complement each other just fine.

I want to thank the OP. I am getting the misogynistic vibe too (just look at some of the comments on this thread) and I really appreciate your effort to gently remind everybody that it is not ok to make ridiculous generalizations about either gender. I know this attitude is probably the result of bad experiences , but some (many) women are rejected, judged superficially and made fun of too, and all this bitterness is not very likely to help you get laid, or married, or whatever you're looking for.

I don't know what a PUA is. It sounds like a shell you find in the tropics or maybe a statue on Easter Island.

I think to speak of men and women as different things frames the discussion in an adversarial way to begin with. there can be more difference between two men then a man and woman. look for the human being that you value as much as, if not more then yourself and whom feels the same way about you. not all find that. good luck.

Jono, explain this, you surely recall it.



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