What could her facial expressions mean?

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04 May 2025, 3:59 am

I finally talked to the girl who works at the smoke shop that I sometimes go to. She smiled and started talking back to me

My next trip to the store, I didn't talked to her because there was a male employee also there but she made the effort to talk to me from across the store

My third trip, I got bad vibes when I entered so I didn't speak but she said my name for the first time when she told me to have a good day

My fourth trip, I picked up on the signal that she wanted to vent about a annoying phone call she was having when I got there so I got her to vent that she was getting annoying phone calls all day

My most recent trip, when I walked in. She gave me this look that gave me bad vibes and when she finally finish helping a customer. She said my name again but was looking away from me

I talked to her at the register and she was responding back with actual responses, nothing generic

My guess is she annoyed because I never get a real convo going. I usually leave the store quick (not on purpose, it just automatically for me)

Or my worst fear is she thinks I'm creepy and is just being nice to get me to leave



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04 May 2025, 5:50 am

No idea, but if she's giving you bad vibes because you won't get a real conversation going, that can be a red flag. If you guys get a relationship going, she may give you bad vibes whenever you don't do what she wants in order to get her way. In other words, you would be operating out of fear, obligation, or guilt. I think that's not a healthy basis for a relationship or way of life.

However, I'm going off of your description, so there could be some misunderstanding and she's actually a nice person and possible healthy partner. Maybe my perspective is just something to consider.


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04 May 2025, 12:25 pm

Her facial expressions may have had nothing to do with you at all. She may have been thinking about something else. When you were sensing “bad vibes,” maybe she was having a difficult day in her personal life or at work. Those types of jobs can be challenging.

Unless there’s something I’m missing, I’m not sure if I’d read too much into the fact that she talked to you and was friendly before. That’s part of her job. Sometimes people mistake servers and clerks’ friendliness for romantic interest and such when it wasn’t intended to be. Just a thought.


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04 May 2025, 6:42 pm

The way it reads she probably doesn't think you're creepy. You're one of her regulars from the sound of it, if she remembers your name and engages in candid conversation with you. She has to trust you to be able to vent to you like that. Also, it's entirely possible that the "bad vibes" you're getting are just her feeling comfortable enough to drop the customer service persona around you. I've shot my work friends looks after dealing with particularly difficult clients. So it wouldn't be out of the ordinary that what she shot you was one of those this customer was really draining, ugh type of comradery things if she considers you somebody she trusts and who "gets it" because you seem sympathetic when she vents.

However, I agree with TwilightPrincess: she's at work. This is a professional relationship. It's her job to be nice to customers, which you are. I'd tread carefully based on that aspect alone.



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05 May 2025, 10:25 am

Please stop.

Cold approaches never work, and this is her workplace.

Smiles mean nothing, ok?



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05 May 2025, 10:26 am

Stick this advice in your head:

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06 May 2025, 12:17 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Cold approaches never work, and this is her workplace.



Prove it! There is not one couple of the face of this earth who met by a cold approach?



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06 May 2025, 12:29 pm

Pink Zeppelin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Cold approaches never work, and this is her workplace.



Prove it! There is not one couple of the face of this earth who met by a cold approach?



They are becoming more and more rare though. Women would rather be warmed approach (being friends with the same friend) nowadays. That or don’t approach at all.



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06 May 2025, 1:02 pm

TP's answer above is the correct one. Separating professional from personal interest is difficult, I think, even for NTs. Shop workers are paid to engage customers with smiles and chat.

I don't agree that it's not possible she likes you, just that you need to be really careful not to misread this situation.


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06 May 2025, 1:36 pm

Pink Zeppelin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Cold approaches never work, and this is her workplace.



Prove it! There is not one couple of the face of this earth who met by a cold approach?


Ok I am starting to download the data of all couples’ first meetup on earth.

See you on next Christmas.



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06 May 2025, 2:15 pm

KanyeWestFan wrote:
My third trip, I got bad vibes when I entered so I didn't speak but she said my name for the first time when she told me to have a good day


My most recent trip, when I walked in. She gave me this look that gave me bad vibes and when she finally finish helping a customer. She said my name again but was looking away from me



What are "bad Vibes" exactly? What do they feel like?



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20 May 2025, 11:04 pm

DuckHairback wrote:
TP's answer above is the correct one. Separating professional from personal interest is difficult, I think, even for NTs. Shop workers are paid to engage customers with smiles and chat.

I don't agree that it's not possible she likes you, just that you need to be really careful not to misread this situation.

It is also difficult to me. I sometimes have discussions with my current girlfriend about my attractiveness. I don't think I am attractive, but she said she notices something. But I think there is nothing going on between me and any other woman.

A few years ago I was in a shop in Moscow (during a date with my girlfriend), looking for a matryoshka (you now, wooden dolls, that have a smaller doll in it, with a smaller doll in it, with a smaller doll in it, etc.), during a date. I notice that the shop assistant is friendly. But my girlfriend thoought and told me, that the assistant was attracted to me.

I am not sure. It is a part of the assistant's job, to be smiling and friendly to customers, and know their names when the customers visit the shop often. I think, especially if she is the owner, her business is going well, and she is likely pleased because of it.



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24 May 2025, 6:15 pm

I would say that there is a good enough chance that she likes / is interested in you.

How do you feel about the girl at the smoke shop? Do you find her attractive? If so, I'd try to have some longer conversations to get to know her, and if you like what you hear then maybe ask for her number.

I think you have nothing to lose here, worse case sanario you find a new smoke shop to frequent if it gets awkward between the two of you.