90% of Aspies can't get a date?

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26 Dec 2009, 6:04 am

This may be true when talking about aspies between the ages of 14 and 21 or something like that, but im sure more than 10% of adult aspies can get some sort of date.



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26 Dec 2009, 6:55 am

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im sure more than 10% of adult aspies can get some sort of date.


Don't be sure - I am 43 (nearly 44) and I have never had a date in my life. There are lots of guys on the forum in the same situation. Maybe the figure is not exactly 90% but it would still be pretty high.

One of the points in the original discussion that I diasgree with is that Aspie boys should not be taught sex-ed. Of course they should. Even if it is only so they can function if they decide to visit a prostitute. Every human being needs to know the basics.


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26 Dec 2009, 7:02 am

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im sure more than 10% of adult aspies can get some sort of date.


Don't be sure - I am 43 (nearly 44) and I have never had a date in my life. There are lots of guys on the forum in the same situation. Maybe the figure is not exactly 90% but it would still be pretty high.

One of the points in the original discussion that I diasgree with is that Aspie boys should not be taught sex-ed. Of course they should. Even if it is only so they can function if they decide to visit a prostitute. Every human being needs to know the basics.



The less they are taught and encuraged about this crap, the lesser their problem with fulfilling their urges will be.
They should be accepted for not wanting to have friends or a girlfriend.



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26 Dec 2009, 7:26 am

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trojan51 wrote:
im sure more than 10% of adult aspies can get some sort of date.


Don't be sure - I am 43 (nearly 44) and I have never had a date in my life. There are lots of guys on the forum in the same situation. Maybe the figure is not exactly 90% but it would still be pretty high.

One of the points in the original discussion that I diasgree with is that Aspie boys should not be taught sex-ed. Of course they should. Even if it is only so they can function if they decide to visit a prostitute. Every human being needs to know the basics.



The less they are taught and encuraged about this crap, the lesser their problem with fulfilling their urges will be.
They should be accepted for not wanting to have friends or a girlfriend.


Sexual education isn't just about how to fulfill one's urges anyway. In teaching respect for one's own body and its functions and how to say "no", it also makes one less vulnerable to sexual abuse, at least in cases where no physical force is used.

Besides, it's just a biological fact that most men, aspie or not, develop certain physical appetites. Having some insight into these appetites certainly helps to prevent these from finding illegitimate expression, such as sexual violence or unhealthy porn addiction. To my mind it isn't a coincidence that of all ages the Victorian Era, with all its prudery, ignorance and sexual repression, saw the greatest rise in prostitution, pornography, and child abuse. Read this for instance; it's every bit as shocking as modern child abuse stories.



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26 Dec 2009, 7:32 am

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Besides, it's just a biological fact that most men, aspie or not, develop certain physical appetites. Having some insight into these appetites certainly helps to prevent these from finding illegitimate expression, such as sexual violence or unhealthy porn addiction. To my mind it isn't a coincidence that of all ages the Victorian Era, with all its prudery, ignorance and sexual repression, saw the greatest rise in prostitution, pornography, and child abuse. Read this for instance; it's every bit as shocking as modern child abuse stories.


The problem is that you actually have to teach these Aspie boys that if girls show any interest in them, it's sexual harassment. A nt girl would never be interested in a teenage Aspie boy.
I believe that if you can learn an Aspie boy to accept that he will never get a girlfriend, he will have less interest in sex.



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26 Dec 2009, 7:37 am

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Besides, it's just a biological fact that most men, aspie or not, develop certain physical appetites. Having some insight into these appetites certainly helps to prevent these from finding illegitimate expression, such as sexual violence or unhealthy porn addiction. To my mind it isn't a coincidence that of all ages the Victorian Era, with all its prudery, ignorance and sexual repression, saw the greatest rise in prostitution, pornography, and child abuse. Read this for instance; it's every bit as shocking as modern child abuse stories.


The problem is that you actually have to teach these Aspie boys that if girls show any interest in them, it's sexual harassment. A nt girl would never be interested in a teenage Aspie boy.
I believe that if you can learn an Aspie boy to accept that he will never get a girlfriend, he will have less interest in sex.


Let's suppose this is true (I think it isn't, by the way). You're still going to need some sexual education in order to understand the concept of sexual harassment, aren't you?



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26 Dec 2009, 7:39 am

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The less they are taught and encuraged about this crap, the lesser their problem with fulfilling their urges will be.
They should be accepted for not wanting to have friends or a girlfriend.


What a load of s**t! All males (and females, too I assume) develop sexual urges - it is normal. Even you do - you are always posting about wanting sex but not a girlfriend. You contradict your own arguement. The important thing is that Aspie boys learn what to do about their sexual urges.


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26 Dec 2009, 7:41 am

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Besides, it's just a biological fact that most men, aspie or not, develop certain physical appetites. Having some insight into these appetites certainly helps to prevent these from finding illegitimate expression, such as sexual violence or unhealthy porn addiction. To my mind it isn't a coincidence that of all ages the Victorian Era, with all its prudery, ignorance and sexual repression, saw the greatest rise in prostitution, pornography, and child abuse. Read this for instance; it's every bit as shocking as modern child abuse stories.


The problem is that you actually have to teach these Aspie boys that if girls show any interest in them, it's sexual harassment. A nt girl would never be interested in a teenage Aspie boy.
I believe that if you can learn an Aspie boy to accept that he will never get a girlfriend, he will have less interest in sex.


Let's suppose this is true (I think it isn't, by the way). You're still going to need some sexual education in order to understand the concept of sexual harassment, aren't you?


No, only learning that if grils show interest in you, it's harassment and bullying.



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26 Dec 2009, 7:42 am

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Sexual education isn't just about how to fulfill one's urges anyway. In teaching respect for one's own body and its functions and how to say "no", it also makes one less vulnerable to sexual abuse, at least in cases where no physical force is used.

Besides, it's just a biological fact that most men, aspie or not, develop certain physical appetites. Having some insight into these appetites certainly helps to prevent these from finding illegitimate expression, such as sexual violence or unhealthy porn addiction.


Excellent points.

I have had enough posting for one night - I am going to bed now. Catch you all tommorow.


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26 Dec 2009, 7:43 am

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The less they are taught and encuraged about this crap, the lesser their problem with fulfilling their urges will be.
They should be accepted for not wanting to have friends or a girlfriend.


What a load of s**t! All males (and females, too I assume) develop sexual urges - it is normal. Even you do - you are always posting about wanting sex but not a girlfriend. You contradict your own arguement. The important thing is that Aspie boys learn what to do about their sexual urges.



If someone had offered me chemical castration at age 17, I would have accepted it.



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26 Dec 2009, 7:48 am

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No, only learning that if grils show interest in you, it's harassment and bullying.


But I'm sure that certain boys will want to know why girls have interest in them. And besides, your entire utterly Victorian scheme of hiding the details of reproduction and sexuality won't work anyway, because our society is so sexualized nowadays that there's no way of preventing boys from obtaining knowledge some way or other.



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26 Dec 2009, 7:48 am

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AspiRob wrote:
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The less they are taught and encuraged about this crap, the lesser their problem with fulfilling their urges will be.
They should be accepted for not wanting to have friends or a girlfriend.


What a load of s**t! All males (and females, too I assume) develop sexual urges - it is normal. Even you do - you are always posting about wanting sex but not a girlfriend. You contradict your own arguement. The important thing is that Aspie boys learn what to do about their sexual urges.



If someone had offered me chemical castration at age 17, I would have accepted it.




Would you still if it were still offered?



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26 Dec 2009, 7:52 am

Learning Aspie boys sex ed would give nt kids in class a new idea for bullying.

I once saw a psychiatrist and told him I wanted to be chemically castrated, but I got a Seroquel prescription instead.



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26 Dec 2009, 7:53 am

I'm sure that getting a date wouldn't be too much of a problem for me but, more often than not, I find myself somewhat incompatible with others. So I don't. I've had offers of sex but turned them down as I didn't feel intimate enough with that particular person.



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26 Dec 2009, 7:54 am

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I once saw a psychiatrist and told him I wanted to be chemically castrated, but I got a Seroquel prescription instead.


You look like Charlie Brooker in that photo. :D



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26 Dec 2009, 7:56 am

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I once saw a psychiatrist and told him I wanted to be chemically castrated, but I got a Seroquel prescription instead.


You look like Charlie Brooker in that photo. :D


And who is that?