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14 May 2015, 7:07 am

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Mutations are rare, but generally speaking, women within the same community are so clones.


that's true, but I doubt I'm the only one like that...could be that mutations in Lebanon aren't so vocal or present on tinder or other dating sites...I personally would never use it.


if mutations wouldn't be vocal online, then where? In one of those old monasteries? Nuns? :lol:

Easier said than done, if they are no where to be seen then what?



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14 May 2015, 7:34 am

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Mutations are rare, but generally speaking, women within the same community are so clones.


that's true, but I doubt I'm the only one like that...could be that mutations in Lebanon aren't so vocal or present on tinder or other dating sites...I personally would never use it.


if mutations wouldn't be vocal online, then where? In one of those old monasteries? Nuns? :lol:

Easier said than done, if they are no where to be seen then what?


Lol no :lol:, I'm more of a forum kind of person, i've met a lot of friends online on different forums throughout the years who hypothetically I might date (if they'd be interested) if i were single. I bet the other mutations use some form of social networking (not sure what though as I don't know any), but personally I don't like dating sites, if I were single, I'd probably just stick to the forums and go out with some of my friends if they'd be interested.



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14 May 2015, 12:49 pm

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I guess I'm another specie then, since I've never liked anyone liked by other girls, but it wasn't that i was some rebel since I don't really care about what is considered attractive here. I just always had a thing for those no one else liked since they were usually nicer, more intelligent and more fun to be around. Couldn't care less what other girls think of that to be honest, didn't bother to try to fit in since I knew I'd fail anyway.


is it wrong to wish there were more women like you?

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Lol no :lol:, I'm more of a forum kind of person, i've met a lot of friends online on different forums throughout the years who hypothetically I might date (if they'd be interested) if i were single. I bet the other mutations use some form of social networking (not sure what though as I don't know any), but personally I don't like dating sites, if I were single, I'd probably just stick to the forums and go out with some of my friends if they'd be interested.


all forums I'm on are guy dominated, if/when a woman does join shes swamped with guys hitting on or teasing her. most time they are married /in relationship anyways. still if they exist they represent 1% of the forums. suppose I should join women based forums, but then I imagine that would upset them.



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14 May 2015, 1:02 pm

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I guess I'm another specie then, since I've never liked anyone liked by other girls, but it wasn't that i was some rebel since I don't really care about what is considered attractive here. I just always had a thing for those no one else liked since they were usually nicer, more intelligent and more fun to be around. Couldn't care less what other girls think of that to be honest, didn't bother to try to fit in since I knew I'd fail anyway.


is it wrong to wish there were more women like you?


Lol no, but thanks! well if there were more like me, maybe I'd finally have a female friend....that hasn't happened in a long while.

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Lol no :lol:, I'm more of a forum kind of person, i've met a lot of friends online on different forums throughout the years who hypothetically I might date (if they'd be interested) if i were single. I bet the other mutations use some form of social networking (not sure what though as I don't know any), but personally I don't like dating sites, if I were single, I'd probably just stick to the forums and go out with some of my friends if they'd be interested.


all forums I'm on are guy dominated, if/when a woman does join shes swamped with guys hitting on or teasing her. most time they are married /in relationship anyways. still if they exist they represent 1% of the forums. suppose I should join women based forums, but then I imagine that would upset them.


Yes, that's true...I've seen it myself as well. I don't know what nice guys like you should do, it's beyond me. Online is definitely easier for a woman, most likely offline as well....I just noticed that the best way (IMO) is if people are friends first....and then if there is some additional attraction so much for the better. I'd never try dating sites, don't really feel comfortable at that kind of "matching".



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14 May 2015, 1:25 pm

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I guess I'm another specie then, since I've never liked anyone liked by other girls, but it wasn't that i was some rebel since I don't really care about what is considered attractive here. I just always had a thing for those no one else liked since they were usually nicer, more intelligent and more fun to be around. Couldn't care less what other girls think of that to be honest, didn't bother to try to fit in since I knew I'd fail anyway.


is it wrong to wish there were more women like you?


Lol no, but thanks! well if there were more like me, maybe I'd finally have a female friend....that hasn't happened in a long while.

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Lol no :lol:, I'm more of a forum kind of person, i've met a lot of friends online on different forums throughout the years who hypothetically I might date (if they'd be interested) if i were single. I bet the other mutations use some form of social networking (not sure what though as I don't know any), but personally I don't like dating sites, if I were single, I'd probably just stick to the forums and go out with some of my friends if they'd be interested.


all forums I'm on are guy dominated, if/when a woman does join shes swamped with guys hitting on or teasing her. most time they are married /in relationship anyways. still if they exist they represent 1% of the forums. suppose I should join women based forums, but then I imagine that would upset them.


Yes, that's true...I've seen it myself as well. I don't know what nice guys like you should do, it's beyond me. Online is definitely easier for a woman, most likely offline as well....I just noticed that the best way (IMO) is if people are friends first....and then if there is some additional attraction so much for the better. I'd never try dating sites, don't really feel comfortable at that kind of "matching".


I've had more female friends then male friends. why is it you seem to have problems with them? that said I have none now, so I guess they weren't lasting friendships.

we die, that's what people want anyways they just are too politically correct to say it.

friends first just can't work for me. either I'm attracted and romantic to a woman or friends, my mind has a wall, friends can't become romantic. and romantic can't become just friends. :(



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14 May 2015, 2:07 pm

Many times, friendships between men and women turn into romance.

These sorts of relationships probably produce the best marriages.



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14 May 2015, 2:28 pm

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Many times, friendships between men and women turn into romance.


Only if they have a romantic undertone from the start. Otherwise, they are just more or less permanent friend-zones, like we have seen examples of here.



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14 May 2015, 5:26 pm

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Unfortunately I am short and shy as well and i'm kind of youngish looking with a weird voice not to mention i'm pretty socially awkward. I'm pretty much the same height as Boo, maybe a little bit shorter. I think that's why i'm a little bit scared of using Tinder because it's pretty easy to hide how short you really are and women arne't really going to expect me being 5 ft 3 and that will probably turn off a lot of girls. It sucks being a really short guy, it's a lot easier if you're a girl. I don't think i'm a terrible looking guy, I still kind of have that cute boyish look but i'm definitely not really attractive either.

I'm probably going to be single for a couple more years i'd say. Simply because I didn't really understand the rules of dating till like a month ago and i'm still pretty scared of pulling the trigger and asking a girl out. That can change though but I have to push myself.


And if you mention your height in description or even in chat, they start lecturing you how height is all in your head and it's not a big deal ...bla bla...you know, the usual speech; - then they reject you by telling you they prefer a taller man :lol:.
And you know who usually bs us with that kind of speech as well? Tall and normally-height guys, as if they know s**t.

Yes, I know, probably all the matches who are taller than me would unmatch me if they can see my height.



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15 May 2015, 2:31 am

sly279 wrote:
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I guess I'm another specie then, since I've never liked anyone liked by other girls, but it wasn't that i was some rebel since I don't really care about what is considered attractive here. I just always had a thing for those no one else liked since they were usually nicer, more intelligent and more fun to be around. Couldn't care less what other girls think of that to be honest, didn't bother to try to fit in since I knew I'd fail anyway.


is it wrong to wish there were more women like you?


Lol no, but thanks! well if there were more like me, maybe I'd finally have a female friend....that hasn't happened in a long while.

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Lol no :lol:, I'm more of a forum kind of person, i've met a lot of friends online on different forums throughout the years who hypothetically I might date (if they'd be interested) if i were single. I bet the other mutations use some form of social networking (not sure what though as I don't know any), but personally I don't like dating sites, if I were single, I'd probably just stick to the forums and go out with some of my friends if they'd be interested.


all forums I'm on are guy dominated, if/when a woman does join shes swamped with guys hitting on or teasing her. most time they are married /in relationship anyways. still if they exist they represent 1% of the forums. suppose I should join women based forums, but then I imagine that would upset them.


Yes, that's true...I've seen it myself as well. I don't know what nice guys like you should do, it's beyond me. Online is definitely easier for a woman, most likely offline as well....I just noticed that the best way (IMO) is if people are friends first....and then if there is some additional attraction so much for the better. I'd never try dating sites, don't really feel comfortable at that kind of "matching".


I've had more female friends then male friends. why is it you seem to have problems with them? that said I have none now, so I guess they weren't lasting friendships.

we die, that's what people want anyways they just are too politically correct to say it.

friends first just can't work for me. either I'm attracted and romantic to a woman or friends, my mind has a wall, friends can't become romantic. and romantic can't become just friends. :(


Dunno, I have to be friends first, get to know someone...but of course not everyone is like that :scratch:

As far as people wanting us to die, I wouldn't personally care about anyone who wants me dead. I'd live even if just to spite them :)

As far as why I can't be friends with other women - I think it's a combination of not having anything in common, complete lack of interest in usual things that women love and they usually don't find me interesting for long. I did try online as well, they'd usually cut me off after a while. last time I agreed to meet with one "friend" she forgot to show up :lol: I'm most likely more on the same wavelength with some men.



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15 May 2015, 3:29 am

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Dunno, I have to be friends first, get to know someone...but of course not everyone is like that :scratch:

As far as people wanting us to die, I wouldn't personally care about anyone who wants me dead. I'd live even if just to spite them :)

As far as why I can't be friends with other women - I think it's a combination of not having anything in common, complete lack of interest in usual things that women love and they usually don't find me interesting for long. I did try online as well, they'd usually cut me off after a while. last time I agreed to meet with one "friend" she forgot to show up :lol: I'm most likely more on the same wavelength with some men.


thats what dating is for. its to get to know each other. being friends first voids a need for dating.
it always goes one of two ways. 1. you like girl, she don't' like you friendzone. 2. she likes you, you dont' like here end of friendship.

I'm not wealthy enough to waste money on a girl to be friendzoned for years til the ends the friendship mean while I slowly start to hate her, cause I lover her deeply but to her I'm just that guy she hangs out with. I also have no interest in doing that to a woman. so I prefer to go in with the goal being a relationship and both parties sharing the goal, then date to see if we are compatible. I suppose its a romantic geared relationship. vs going in as friends where one person hopes to get a relationship. I don't think most guys would want to do the latter. friends first really only works for women who have loyal patient guys who are into them.

bummer. I find women to be more caring and understanding I could never discuss my emotions with guys.



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15 May 2015, 4:04 am

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Dunno, I have to be friends first, get to know someone...but of course not everyone is like that :scratch:

As far as people wanting us to die, I wouldn't personally care about anyone who wants me dead. I'd live even if just to spite them :)

As far as why I can't be friends with other women - I think it's a combination of not having anything in common, complete lack of interest in usual things that women love and they usually don't find me interesting for long. I did try online as well, they'd usually cut me off after a while. last time I agreed to meet with one "friend" she forgot to show up :lol: I'm most likely more on the same wavelength with some men.


thats what dating is for. its to get to know each other. being friends first voids a need for dating.
it always goes one of two ways. 1. you like girl, she don't' like you friendzone. 2. she likes you, you dont' like here end of friendship.

I'm not wealthy enough to waste money on a girl to be friendzoned for years til the ends the friendship mean while I slowly start to hate her, cause I lover her deeply but to her I'm just that guy she hangs out with. I also have no interest in doing that to a woman. so I prefer to go in with the goal being a relationship and both parties sharing the goal, then date to see if we are compatible. I suppose its a romantic geared relationship. vs going in as friends where one person hopes to get a relationship. I don't think most guys would want to do the latter. friends first really only works for women who have loyal patient guys who are into them.

bummer. I find women to be more caring and understanding I could never discuss my emotions with guys.


Really? I find much easier to talk about emotions with guys :scratch:

Well you know what suits you better, I'm not a guy, not in your position, you know better what works for you or doesn't work. i've been out of that zone for more than a decade so am a bit out of it to be honest. I'm just sort of a person who'd usually fall for a friend, but there are other ways of course.



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15 May 2015, 4:23 am

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Dunno, I have to be friends first, get to know someone...but of course not everyone is like that :scratch:

As far as people wanting us to die, I wouldn't personally care about anyone who wants me dead. I'd live even if just to spite them :)

As far as why I can't be friends with other women - I think it's a combination of not having anything in common, complete lack of interest in usual things that women love and they usually don't find me interesting for long. I did try online as well, they'd usually cut me off after a while. last time I agreed to meet with one "friend" she forgot to show up :lol: I'm most likely more on the same wavelength with some men.


thats what dating is for. its to get to know each other. being friends first voids a need for dating.
it always goes one of two ways. 1. you like girl, she don't' like you friendzone. 2. she likes you, you dont' like here end of friendship.

I'm not wealthy enough to waste money on a girl to be friendzoned for years til the ends the friendship mean while I slowly start to hate her, cause I lover her deeply but to her I'm just that guy she hangs out with. I also have no interest in doing that to a woman. so I prefer to go in with the goal being a relationship and both parties sharing the goal, then date to see if we are compatible. I suppose its a romantic geared relationship. vs going in as friends where one person hopes to get a relationship. I don't think most guys would want to do the latter. friends first really only works for women who have loyal patient guys who are into them.

bummer. I find women to be more caring and understanding I could never discuss my emotions with guys.


Really? I find much easier to talk about emotions with guys :scratch:

Well you know what suits you better, I'm not a guy, not in your position, you know better what works for you or doesn't work. i've been out of that zone for more than a decade so am a bit out of it to be honest. I'm just sort of a person who'd usually fall for a friend, but there are other ways of course.


Guys are generally more open to talk about emotions to female friends than to males.



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15 May 2015, 4:36 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Dunno, I have to be friends first, get to know someone...but of course not everyone is like that :scratch:

As far as people wanting us to die, I wouldn't personally care about anyone who wants me dead. I'd live even if just to spite them :)

As far as why I can't be friends with other women - I think it's a combination of not having anything in common, complete lack of interest in usual things that women love and they usually don't find me interesting for long. I did try online as well, they'd usually cut me off after a while. last time I agreed to meet with one "friend" she forgot to show up :lol: I'm most likely more on the same wavelength with some men.


thats what dating is for. its to get to know each other. being friends first voids a need for dating.
it always goes one of two ways. 1. you like girl, she don't' like you friendzone. 2. she likes you, you dont' like here end of friendship.

I'm not wealthy enough to waste money on a girl to be friendzoned for years til the ends the friendship mean while I slowly start to hate her, cause I lover her deeply but to her I'm just that guy she hangs out with. I also have no interest in doing that to a woman. so I prefer to go in with the goal being a relationship and both parties sharing the goal, then date to see if we are compatible. I suppose its a romantic geared relationship. vs going in as friends where one person hopes to get a relationship. I don't think most guys would want to do the latter. friends first really only works for women who have loyal patient guys who are into them.

bummer. I find women to be more caring and understanding I could never discuss my emotions with guys.


Really? I find much easier to talk about emotions with guys :scratch:

Well you know what suits you better, I'm not a guy, not in your position, you know better what works for you or doesn't work. i've been out of that zone for more than a decade so am a bit out of it to be honest. I'm just sort of a person who'd usually fall for a friend, but there are other ways of course.


Guys are generally more open to talk emotions to female friends than to males.


That makes sense, thanks!



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15 May 2015, 9:21 am

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thats what dating is for. its to get to know each other. being friends first voids a need for dating.
it always goes one of two ways. 1. you like girl, she don't' like you friendzone. 2. she likes you, you dont' like here end of friendship.


There are other ways of avoiding dating. In my experience, if you are nonverbal with each others one or both liking each others is not "written in stone" but can change. Provided you avoid the friend-zone, these things can and do change.



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Dunno, I have to be friends first, get to know someone...but of course not everyone is like that :scratch:

As far as people wanting us to die, I wouldn't personally care about anyone who wants me dead. I'd live even if just to spite them :)

As far as why I can't be friends with other women - I think it's a combination of not having anything in common, complete lack of interest in usual things that women love and they usually don't find me interesting for long. I did try online as well, they'd usually cut me off after a while. last time I agreed to meet with one "friend" she forgot to show up :lol: I'm most likely more on the same wavelength with some men.


thats what dating is for. its to get to know each other. being friends first voids a need for dating.
it always goes one of two ways. 1. you like girl, she don't' like you friendzone. 2. she likes you, you dont' like here end of friendship.

I'm not wealthy enough to waste money on a girl to be friendzoned for years til the ends the friendship mean while I slowly start to hate her, cause I lover her deeply but to her I'm just that guy she hangs out with. I also have no interest in doing that to a woman. so I prefer to go in with the goal being a relationship and both parties sharing the goal, then date to see if we are compatible. I suppose its a romantic geared relationship. vs going in as friends where one person hopes to get a relationship. I don't think most guys would want to do the latter. friends first really only works for women who have loyal patient guys who are into them.

bummer. I find women to be more caring and understanding I could never discuss my emotions with guys.


Really? I find much easier to talk about emotions with guys :scratch:

Well you know what suits you better, I'm not a guy, not in your position, you know better what works for you or doesn't work. i've been out of that zone for more than a decade so am a bit out of it to be honest. I'm just sort of a person who'd usually fall for a friend, but there are other ways of course.


yeah. idk here's how it usually goes

so I think i love this girl but I'm afraid she'll hurt me
guy friend: you p***y
guys are very harsh when other guys share emotions with them. guys tend to just do activities together. but women will spend large times just talking about emotions, feelings and what is happening in their lives via using the activities.
guys will judge you and pick on you, women tend to be understanding and try to help.

yeah but most women don't fall for friends :(
especially if the guy is a true friend and talks about his emotions with them, they see him as lacking confidence. guys come off as confident to women via not sharing emotions and feelings or worries.



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15 May 2015, 4:38 pm

But if you do it three times, they will call you whiner - women can be even harsher and quicker to label a complaining man as whiner than they do to other women.

So better not to share emotions with anyone.