Women are not attracted to me because I'm not 'masculine'?
Greb wrote:
Have you zero, ZERO, success??? Because there's guys here with zero success. There's is guys here in their 30s that NEVER had a girlfriend. And you're telling them that they had not enough interest??? that they didn't make enough effort???, that it's their fault because their level is too high and they only look for bimbos and don't want a simple next door girl???
Are you f**** kidding me? Have you any trace of empathy?
Are you f**** kidding me? Have you any trace of empathy?
empathy has nothing to do with it. some men and some women have had no success for a variety of reasons - i haven't told anyone it was from a lack of effort or interest so you are either making things up or misremembering my posts. sometimes (though obviously not always) people have a lack of dating success due to their own rigid standards, which is something we do see on the forum.
you still have not provided any evidence of your assertion that women have more actual dating opportunities than men.
Greb wrote:
Great! I'm glad to hear it! Then I suppose you don't have any problem in saying how it was defined.
it's in the thread. each member has their own definition, so it behooves you to read it.
Greb wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
but many men made it quite clear in that thread that fat and obese (and in some cases even overweight) women are undateable and hence actually BELOW their league, so that negates your point. a definition of obese or fat does not have to be universally agreed-upon because the men were talking about their own opinion of who they would not date, and you were saying that some men are below anyone's league. apparently, that is not true, as the men have placed themselves above some groups of women.
in order for your statement to be true, the men would have to be willing to date anybody. and many of them were not.
in order for your statement to be true, the men would have to be willing to date anybody. and many of them were not.
Did you ask what they meant with fat? I'm glad you know, because I don't.
Have you ever dated a 250kg guy, for example, or is it below you?
some are only willing to date women who are underweight, some are not willing to date women who are 30lb overweight, some are not willing to date someone who is 100lb overweight. again, you have to read the thread to see the full scope.
this isn't a discussion about me, though i responded in the thread itself so you can see my response there. in a nutshell i could not care less if a partner is obese. i don't put people below my league because i don't sort people into ranks like that.
Greb wrote:
And what means that they can't complain if they are not willing to date anyone?
in order for your statement to be factually accurate, they would have to be willing to date ANYONE, but they are not. i don't personally care either way (people can date whoever they want), but you said that "any woman is out of their league" which is obviously untrue. if they have women that they would not date because they consider those women automatically unattractive, then those women are in fact below their league. the OP of that thread (same OP as this thread, interestingly) called dating fat women "lowering his standards".
i am not going to discuss it further with you because you're shouting and and starting to swear, which isn't conducive to a decent discussion. if you decide to calm down and speak to me with the same respect that i am giving to you, i would continue.
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hyperlexian wrote:
Greb wrote:
Have you zero, ZERO, success??? Because there's guys here with zero success. There's is guys here in their 30s that NEVER had a girlfriend. And you're telling them that they had not enough interest??? that they didn't make enough effort???, that it's their fault because their level is too high and they only look for bimbos and don't want a simple next door girl???
Are you f**** kidding me? Have you any trace of empathy?
Are you f**** kidding me? Have you any trace of empathy?
empathy has nothing to do with it. some men and some women have had no success for a variety of reasons - i haven't told anyone it was from a lack of effort or interest so you are either making things up or misremembering my posts. sometimes (though obviously not always) people have a lack of dating success due to their own rigid standards, which is something we do see on the forum.
you still have not provided any evidence of your assertion that women have more actual dating opportunities than men.
Greb wrote:
Great! I'm glad to hear it! Then I suppose you don't have any problem in saying how it was defined.
it's in the thread. each member has their own definition, so it behooves you to read it.
Greb wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
but many men made it quite clear in that thread that fat and obese (and in some cases even overweight) women are undateable and hence actually BELOW their league, so that negates your point. a definition of obese or fat does not have to be universally agreed-upon because the men were talking about their own opinion of who they would not date, and you were saying that some men are below anyone's league. apparently, that is not true, as the men have placed themselves above some groups of women.
in order for your statement to be true, the men would have to be willing to date anybody. and many of them were not.
in order for your statement to be true, the men would have to be willing to date anybody. and many of them were not.
Did you ask what they meant with fat? I'm glad you know, because I don't.
Have you ever dated a 250kg guy, for example, or is it below you?
some are only willing to date women who are underweight, some are not willing to date women who are 30lb overweight, some are not willing to date someone who is 100lb overweight. again, you have to read the thread to see the full scope.
this isn't a discussion about me, though i responded in the thread itself so you can see my response there. in a nutshell i could not care less if a partner is obese. i don't put people below my league because i don't sort people into ranks like that.
Greb wrote:
And what means that they can't complain if they are not willing to date anyone?
in order for your statement to be factually accurate, they would have to be willing to date ANYONE, but they are not. i don't personally care either way (people can date whoever they want), but you said that "any woman is out of their league" which is obviously untrue. if they have women that they would not date because they consider those women automatically unattractive, then those women are in fact below their league. the OP of that thread (same OP as this thread, interestingly) called dating fat women "lowering his standards".
i am not going to discuss it further with you because you're shouting and and starting to swear, which isn't conducive to a decent discussion. if you decide to calm down and speak to me with the same respect that i am giving to you, i would continue.
My experience on the GeektoGeek dating site (detailed above) bear out your argument
nessa238 wrote:
a lot of men lack the self-awareness to modify themselves into what the other person wants
Lack the self awareness to modify themselves into what the other person wants??? Wow, what a death sentence. It is children you should have to mold yourself for, not your own spouse or partner. My gosh, you know how miserable us men get when we are stuck between who they are and a pretty girl? You need to realize no one in the relationship should have to change. Love is supposed to break those norms by making you naturally accept that person for who they are, not love what they could be.
appletheclown wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
a lot of men lack the self-awareness to modify themselves into what the other person wants
Lack the self awareness to modify themselves into what the other person wants??? Wow, what a death sentence. It is children you should have to mold yourself for, not your own spouse or partner. My gosh, you know how miserable us men get when we are stuck between who they are and a pretty girl? You need to realize no one in the relationship should have to change. Love is supposed to break those norms by making you naturally accept that person for who they are, not love what they could be.
If you don't learn how to compromise and adapt to another person then relationships are not going to work
nessa238 wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
a lot of men lack the self-awareness to modify themselves into what the other person wants
Lack the self awareness to modify themselves into what the other person wants??? Wow, what a death sentence. It is children you should have to mold yourself for, not your own spouse or partner. My gosh, you know how miserable us men get when we are stuck between who they are and a pretty girl? You need to realize no one in the relationship should have to change. Love is supposed to break those norms by making you naturally accept that person for who they are, not love what they could be.
If you don't learn how to compromise and adapt to another person then relationships are not going to work
I do agree compromise and adaption are necessary for a relationship to work. What I was saying is trying to make a man or woman become what you want is kind of rude. I don't expect my future wife to change at all for me, just accept who I am and be loyal. I will find her and she will find me. I will love her unconditionally, and she the same. I mean look at all the women who like nerdy guys, just imagine all the women who like non-nerdy aspies that eat bear for dinner, and I have it is delicious mmmmm.

appletheclown wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
appletheclown wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
a lot of men lack the self-awareness to modify themselves into what the other person wants
Lack the self awareness to modify themselves into what the other person wants??? Wow, what a death sentence. It is children you should have to mold yourself for, not your own spouse or partner. My gosh, you know how miserable us men get when we are stuck between who they are and a pretty girl? You need to realize no one in the relationship should have to change. Love is supposed to break those norms by making you naturally accept that person for who they are, not love what they could be.
If you don't learn how to compromise and adapt to another person then relationships are not going to work
I do agree compromise and adaption are necessary for a relationship to work. What I was saying is trying to make a man or woman become what you want is kind of rude. I don't expect my future wife to change at all for me, just accept who I am and be loyal. I will find her and she will find me. I will love her unconditionally, and she the same. I mean look at all the women who like nerdy guys, just imagine all the women who like non-nerdy aspies that eat bear for dinner, and I have it is delicious mmmmm.

I didn't say the other person has to change, I said you have to change yourself to adapt to them and if they've any sense they'll do the same
I'm 47 and believe me this is how relationships work
I don't understand what you're talking about re eating bears
Cafeaulait wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
i heard bears are tasty though..for real
Going off-topic!
I've been harangued enough on this site for doing this
how come others get away with it?
because we only post 1 thing. and then continue on topic.
Yes and I posted a highly relevant post back there and it was ignored as it proves AS men are as picky as they come - hence their lack of success with women!
nessa238 wrote:
Yes and I posted a highly relevant post back there and it was ignored as it proves AS men are as picky as they come - hence their lack of success with women!
Damned if we do damned if we don't. We're too picky, it's our own faults...if we're not picky, then it's apparently an insult to our partners. Oh btw, I'm not picky 
ON TOPIC:
Plenty of women dig the emasculated man.
appletheclown wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
proves AS men are as picky as they come - hence their lack of success with women!
Picky no, why would we be picky?
I opened a profile on the GeektoGeek dating site last month, thinking these people see themselves as 'geeks', which could well mean at least some of them have Aspergers. I thought I would be on 'home territory' and more likely to find someone like-minded.
I put a photo taken last year on ie my most up to date one and I was honest in the weight section and put I was overweight
And do you know what happened?
I didn't get one single response!
This was a first for me as I'm used to getting a number of responses
So if there were more people than average with an ASD on that site it explains a lot!
Far from being desperate for a partner, any partner, in my opinion geeky types/people with Aspergers are MORE picky than average, not less and this is why they don't find partners ie because they think they deserve Princess Leia!
Watching all these films and playing video games instead of mixing more in the real world where real women don't look so perfect has warped their aesthetics. This is my theory and my experience seems to support it.
nessa238 wrote:
Far from being desperate for a partner, any partner, in my opinion geeky types/people with Aspergers are MORE picky than average, not less and this is why they don't find partners ie because they think they deserve Princess Leia!
Watching all these films and playing video games instead of mixing more in the real world where real women don't look so perfect has warped their aesthetics. This is my theory and my experience seems to support it.
First of all I don't plan on partners mam, I plan on a wife and kids.
Second, I swear to God himself (and he knows I would), if a short bossy Japanese woman with full body tattoo's (except the face), has had sex but no sid's, is a member of the yakuza, and knock on my door and offers me a job in tokyo and tells me I will be her husband and that I have no choice, I would consider it a gift from the heavens. Please I'm not picky at all.
appletheclown wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Far from being desperate for a partner, any partner, in my opinion geeky types/people with Aspergers are MORE picky than average, not less and this is why they don't find partners ie because they think they deserve Princess Leia!
Watching all these films and playing video games instead of mixing more in the real world where real women don't look so perfect has warped their aesthetics. This is my theory and my experience seems to support it.
First of all I don't plan on partners mam, I plan on a wife and kids.
Second, I swear to God himself (and he knows I would), if a short bossy Japanese woman with full body tattoo's (except the face), has had sex but no sid's, is a member of the yakuza, and knock on my door and offers me a job in tokyo and tells me I will be her husband and that I have no choice, I would consider it a gift from the heavens. Please I'm not picky at all.
Are you being sarcastic because you have stated a very specific preference there ie you were being picky
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