How to deal with unwanted attention?

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29 Nov 2012, 2:08 pm

Innocent and normal people don't harass in the first place. I wasn't talking about people who respect my wishes and my personal space.

I'm not having this problem anymore really, once in the last two weeks and my girlfriend pulled him away from me the third time he got up against me and tried to dance with me. He had been warned by me twice to stop touching me, the third time she pulled him back and asked if he wanted a girl to beat him up in public and he left us alone.

I think it's sad that it happened but he really wasn't innocent in anyway. And it's just not OK to grind on someone who clearly doesn't want to be touched.


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29 Nov 2012, 2:15 pm

meems wrote:
Innocent and normal people don't harass in the first place. I wasn't talking about people who respect my wishes and my personal space.

I'm not having this problem anymore really, once in the last two weeks and my girlfriend pulled him away from me the third time he got up against me and tried to dance with me. He had been warned by me twice to stop touching me, the third time she pulled him back and asked if he wanted a girl to beat him up in public and he left us alone.

I think it's sad that it happened but he really wasn't innocent in anyway. And it's just not OK to grind on someone who clearly doesn't want to be touched.


No it's not ok but you can't make all the bad things in life go away just because they're bad

It sounds like your gf was able to deal with him

Weren't there bouncers in the place?



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29 Nov 2012, 2:18 pm

meems wrote:
. I wasn't talking about people who respect my wishes and my personal space.

Actually, you weren't. You were talking about
meems wrote:
Recently I've become uncomfortable with guys flirting with me.
to which, I've said show a bit of tact and most normal, innocent guys will understand.

meems wrote:
He had been warned by me twice to stop touching me, the third time she pulled him back and asked if he wanted a girl to beat him up in public and he left us alone.

That's actually quite fair.

meems wrote:
but he really wasn't innocent in anyway.

He was wearing prison scrubs? Or perhaps a bit tipsy?

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And it's just not OK to grind on someone who clearly doesn't want to be touched.

Don't know about you, but I find communication and facial awareness in a dark strobe-lighting loud nightclub not the best.



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29 Nov 2012, 2:27 pm

It was an outside concert and he very clearly heard me and responded that he would stop both times. There wasn't any security.

He didn't have to be a convict to be guilty of violating my space.

I AM uncomfortable with men hitting on me, but I never become aggressive unless someone violates my space or says something threatening. Where did I say I was reacting aggressively to innocent and normal men? I may want to, but I'm generally very polite about rejecting advances... but again, this hasn't really continued to be a problem.

I described the behavior which you have apparently failed to read from the same paragraph you quoted from


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29 Nov 2012, 2:50 pm

meems wrote:
It was an outside concert and he very clearly heard me and responded that he would stop both times. There wasn't any security.

An outside concert without security? The two terms don't really go together. There's either security and a concert or neither. Health and Safety, eh?
It seems also fairly likely, that alcohol was on sale, so we can reasonably assume that this chap was either tipsy or off his face which means he didn't have much control over his actions. Which is also why it's perfectly fair for your friend to help him out, memory loss and all that. It's a shame he lost his friends so they shepherd him while he enjoys the concert, like everyone else. Perhaps he should get some better friends.


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He didn't have to be a convict to be guilty of violating my space.

Well here's all the important question - how big is your space? 2 metre square box? Were there signs saying your space? It's a concert, people naturally group together to form a crowd. Do people who sit on the bus with you are in your space?

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Where did I say I was reacting aggressively to innocent and normal men?

I don't know, I never asked. Wrong person perhaps?

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I described the behavior which you have apparently failed to read from the same paragraph you quoted from

So you failed to understand metaphors, fair enough.



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29 Nov 2012, 3:11 pm

There was no security, no alcohol for sale. That doesn't mean he wasn't drinking, but if he was that doesn't change the fact that he is responsible for himself.

There was no metaphor in your response to my quote.

It's a violation of my space when someone touches my body without my permission.

Are you being intentionally obtuse?


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29 Nov 2012, 3:47 pm

meems wrote:
There was no security,


The event safety guide:
Planning for the show
36 Planning for the show requires preparing strategies for crowd management, transport management, fire, first aid, major incident and contingency planning. More specific details about planning these aspects can be found in other chapters later in this publication. Successful planning for the show requires a team approach. It cannot be achieved by one individual operating alone but requires seeking information and advice from the emergency services (such as the police, fire brigade, etc), the health authority, local authority, any existing venue managers, stewarding, and security contractors.

There was security. Or the whole thing was illegal?

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There was no metaphor in your response to my quote.

Actually, you're correct. That was a reply to somebody else. Sorry about that. But I still can't see this violence you keep mentioning?

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It's a violation of my space when someone touches my body without my permission.

I've been at concerts myself - it's crowded and people are moving, dancing in a confined space. Misplaced hands, arms, countless feet are part and parcel. What next, drunk people telling you how much they love you and your besties with em outlawed?

It seems to me that all that happened was that some drunk guy at a concert got a bit too close a couple times before your friend stepped in and ushered him away. Seen it dozens of times. You're lucky the whole thing didn't explode into a fight really.



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29 Nov 2012, 3:56 pm

enough dragging meems over the coals. J-Greens, it was clear that you didn't understand the situation. now you do. there are no excuses for your posts that continue to be inflammatory. (EDIT: and others... does meems really need to be raked over the coals?)


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