A Self-Made-Man girl discovers that life as a man is harder

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19 Jul 2015, 2:25 pm

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my husband talks about his emotions often. i have never labeled him for it.
lucky, but has't been my experience with the women I've tried to date. as soon as I stop sharing my emotions they said was confident. share them say i lack confident. its really sad I must keep my emotions and concerns bottled up.
The trick is to share only those feelings that she is comfortable with. Never let her see you angry or sad; only let her see you happy or content.


that's not what sharing emotions mean. see most people show happiness to any one and everyone. they don't walk around unemotional look on their face. sharing emotions means crying when sad, talking about why you're upset, sharing your fears etc.



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19 Jul 2015, 2:48 pm

Didn't you say you usually get only first dates? Perhaps it is a bit early to share such emotions then.



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19 Jul 2015, 4:49 pm

sly279 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
my husband talks about his emotions often. i have never labeled him for it.
lucky, but has't been my experience with the women I've tried to date. as soon as I stop sharing my emotions they said was confident. share them say i lack confident. its really sad I must keep my emotions and concerns bottled up.
The trick is to share only those feelings that she is comfortable with. Never let her see you angry or sad; only let her see you happy or content.
That's not what sharing emotions mean. See most people show happiness to any one and everyone. They don't walk around unemotional look on their face. Sharing emotions means crying when sad, talking about why you're upset, sharing your fears etc.
Sure, and that's exactly what it means in theory; but in practice, I know of no woman who is attracted to rage-filled, wild-eyed, angry men, or to weepy, teary-eyed, depressed men, either.

While women may say that they want a man who is "in touch with his feelings", the only feelings that they want him to express openly are happiness and contentment.



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19 Jul 2015, 4:54 pm

Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
my husband talks about his emotions often. i have never labeled him for it.
lucky, but has't been my experience with the women I've tried to date. as soon as I stop sharing my emotions they said was confident. share them say i lack confident. its really sad I must keep my emotions and concerns bottled up.
The trick is to share only those feelings that she is comfortable with. Never let her see you angry or sad; only let her see you happy or content.
That's not what sharing emotions mean. See most people show happiness to any one and everyone. They don't walk around unemotional look on their face. Sharing emotions means crying when sad, talking about why you're upset, sharing your fears etc.
Sure, and that's exactly what it means in theory; but in practice, I know of no woman who is attracted to rage-filled, wild-eyed, angry men, or to weepy, teary-eyed, depressed men, either.

While women may say that they want a man who is "in touch with his feelings", the only feelings that they want him to express openly are happiness and contentment.


....and expressing his love for her in front the entire world. *vomiting*



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19 Jul 2015, 4:57 pm

Probably because they want men whose real feelings are happiness and contentment---and who have good reasons to feel that way.


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19 Jul 2015, 5:38 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
my husband talks about his emotions often. i have never labeled him for it.
lucky, but has't been my experience with the women I've tried to date. as soon as I stop sharing my emotions they said was confident. share them say i lack confident. its really sad I must keep my emotions and concerns bottled up.
The trick is to share only those feelings that she is comfortable with. Never let her see you angry or sad; only let her see you happy or content.
That's not what sharing emotions mean. See most people show happiness to any one and everyone. They don't walk around unemotional look on their face. Sharing emotions means crying when sad, talking about why you're upset, sharing your fears etc.
Sure, and that's exactly what it means in theory; but in practice, I know of no woman who is attracted to rage-filled, wild-eyed, angry men, or to weepy, teary-eyed, depressed men, either.

While women may say that they want a man who is "in touch with his feelings", the only feelings that they want him to express openly are happiness and contentment.


....and expressing his love for her in front the entire world. *vomiting*



That was so sweet!


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19 Jul 2015, 5:43 pm

Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
my husband talks about his emotions often. i have never labeled him for it.
lucky, but has't been my experience with the women I've tried to date. as soon as I stop sharing my emotions they said was confident. share them say i lack confident. its really sad I must keep my emotions and concerns bottled up.
The trick is to share only those feelings that she is comfortable with. Never let her see you angry or sad; only let her see you happy or content.
That's not what sharing emotions mean. See most people show happiness to any one and everyone. They don't walk around unemotional look on their face. Sharing emotions means crying when sad, talking about why you're upset, sharing your fears etc.
Sure, and that's exactly what it means in theory; but in practice, I know of no woman who is attracted to rage-filled, wild-eyed, angry men, or to weepy, teary-eyed, depressed men, either.

While women may say that they want a man who is "in touch with his feelings", the only feelings that they want him to express openly are happiness and contentment.


I would say this is true.

HOWEVER, I don't believe any men would want an angry woman or one who is constantly weepy. I was watching this one Big Brother season 8 and this girl was extremely emotional crying at everything that happened and she was made fun of by girls and guys alike. I couldn't even take it anymore. They wanted to evict her because of her extreme emotions. So I don't think any person really likes mad or sad all the time.


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19 Jul 2015, 5:51 pm

I wouldn't so much dislike a weepy woman as think I'm taking advantage of her.


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19 Jul 2015, 7:53 pm

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Didn't you say you usually get only first dates? Perhaps it is a bit early to share such emotions then.

Official dates yes. But I've had months long and year long almost relationships with women.



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19 Jul 2015, 7:55 pm

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Probably because they want men whose real feelings are happiness and contentment---and who have good reasons to feel that way.


Then they should give the same. So only happy no crying, no complaining about work, famiky, friends, no complain ing at all .



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19 Jul 2015, 7:59 pm

nurseangela wrote:
Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
my husband talks about his emotions often. i have never labeled him for it.
lucky, but has't been my experience with the women I've tried to date. as soon as I stop sharing my emotions they said was confident. share them say i lack confident. its really sad I must keep my emotions and concerns bottled up.
The trick is to share only those feelings that she is comfortable with. Never let her see you angry or sad; only let her see you happy or content.
That's not what sharing emotions mean. See most people show happiness to any one and everyone. They don't walk around unemotional look on their face. Sharing emotions means crying when sad, talking about why you're upset, sharing your fears etc.
Sure, and that's exactly what it means in theory; but in practice, I know of no woman who is attracted to rage-filled, wild-eyed, angry men, or to weepy, teary-eyed, depressed men, either.

While women may say that they want a man who is "in touch with his feelings", the only feelings that they want him to express openly are happiness and contentment.


I would say this is true.

HOWEVER, I don't believe any men would want an angry woman or one who is constantly weepy. I was watching this one Big Brother season 8 and this girl was extremely emotional crying at everything that happened and she was made fun of by girls and guys alike. I couldn't even take it anymore. They wanted to evict her because of her extreme emotions. So I don't think any person really likes mad or sad all the time.


Not all the time omg no one can be angry or sad all the time . but they don't want a guy to every share his emotions then wonder why men kill themselves . because we have emotions just like women and if you keep it pent up your going to break or snap eventually. Only a amount of time.



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20 Jul 2015, 1:56 am

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To get a date with a stranger, a reasonably attractive woman need only make herself available; but a reasonably attractive man must actively approach dozens of female strangers before even one of them says "Yes".

Men chase; women choose. Yes, the social dynamics really are just that simple.

Personally, I preferred turning the tables by exploring interests that women seemed to find attractive, and then playing a passive role by waiting for one of them to approach me while engaging in that interest. This is diametrically opposed to the PUA philosophy, but it worked for me.


Getting a date of course is hardly the only part of it, sure that bit can be easy....but I can say more often than not relationships I attempt just end up as me being used for a while. Cause I guess I get the audacity to think someone actually would genuinely be interested in me as a person the last one had me thinking we where starting to have something going on...then like clockwork I go over one night, am on my period and inform him so we didn't 'have sex' well next time I tried to hook up with him it was 'oh sorry we can't have anything ongoing, I've actually been seeing someone else to that I think things may get serious with'. Perhaps neurotypical women are better at reading these situations and not falling for such things.

I personally cannot initiate interactions usually with new people...its not a 'oh I think guys should do the chasing' sort of mindset. If I could count the number of times I've wanted to give someone a compliment or start a conversation or express interest and simply can't due to some weird block(probably to do with the autism) It would be a lot.

I suppose that is why sometimes these thread irk me...its as though the very real difficulties autistic females also have with interactions an initiating them is put in the same catagory as neurotypical women who more have an ingrained mindset that 'guys should ask girls out' which prevents them initiating...rather than a condition they didn't choose that makes it difficult.


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20 Jul 2015, 2:01 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Also you do realize there is more to life than relationships/dating right?....so even if it could be proven without a doubt 'all' females of every neurotype have it easier than all males in general in the dating world that says nothing about other aspects of life. I could complain about how life is harder as a female because we have 'that time of the month' but does it really make sense to base who has an easier life on one part of life?


The other aspects in life?


Yes, figured most people knew there where other aspects of life than dating....thus even if it was proven all females have it easier than all males in dating/relationships across the board, that would say nothing about other aspects of life. Such as physical health, mental health, working, parenting, financial situation ect, you know the parts of life that aren't dating.


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20 Jul 2015, 2:01 am

Yes, but this is L&D. Here, we talk about relationships and dating.

Sweetleaf, have you ever been in a relationship and have you been on more than a few dates in your life?

Sweetleaf wrote:
Getting a date of course is hardly the only part of it, sure that bit can be easy....but I can say more often than not relationships I attempt just end up as me being used for a while.

A lot of guys on this forum hardly get any dates ever.



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20 Jul 2015, 2:08 am

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Yes, but this is L&D. Here, we talk about relationships and dating.

Sweetleaf, have you ever been in a relationship and have you been on more than a few dates in your life?


I am not the one that put 'life as a man is harder' perhaps 'dating as a man is harder' would have made more sense though I don't entirely agree. And yes I've been on dates and have attempted relationships...and well single now and have spent most of my life single. At this point I suppose I am just fed up with how all the dating senerios and attempted relationships have gone so have more been actively avoiding any chances of dates/relationships.


Also this is an autism forum, here we talk about people on the spectrum...females on the spectrum do not 'have it easier' than neurotypical males when it comes to dating like you'd think is the case reading this thread and generalizations being applied to 'all' females/women.


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20 Jul 2015, 2:11 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
Also this is an autism forum, here we talk about people on the spectrum...females on the spectrum do not 'have it easier' than neurotypical males when it comes to dating like you'd think is the case reading this thread and generalizations being applied to 'all' females/women.

Would you say that a typical WP.net woman is just as successful (or less successful) in relationships as a typical WP.net man?