25 Jul 2018, 2:54 pm
25 Jul 2018, 3:01 pm
The_Face_of_Boo
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25 Jul 2018, 3:01 pm
AngelRho wrote:
Spiderpig wrote:
Well, the unfairness of gaming the system so others will die on the streets rather than me, without having done anything to deserve such privilege more than they do, is precisely the reason I don't consider myself independent, and why renting a room in my current situation is at best morally equivalent to being still at my parents' home. If I had no business dating before, I sure as hell still don't.
You know, there's a way to exploit that desire without any BS and without making anyone pay for it other than the men enjoying those body parts (or the full body, or even more than that) under the terms agreed to freely with their owner. No parasitism involved. Unfortunately, we like to give that transaction ugly names, to outlaw it, making it unnecessarily dangerous, and to let our blood boil if someone suggests a relative of ours might engage in it.
RainbowUnion wrote:
My other gripe is the fact that for women, its still seen as far more acceptable for them to be a parasite of some sort, whether its on their family, boyfriend, or husband. Why? Because they have body parts that 94% of men desire? Seems a pretty BS reason.
You know, there's a way to exploit that desire without any BS and without making anyone pay for it other than the men enjoying those body parts (or the full body, or even more than that) under the terms agreed to freely with their owner. No parasitism involved. Unfortunately, we like to give that transaction ugly names, to outlaw it, making it unnecessarily dangerous, and to let our blood boil if someone suggests a relative of ours might engage in it.
Ok, but women have been and still are vulnerable. Feminism, the idea of the sexes being equal, is founded on exactly that issue. I disagree with much of feminism, but this much is true. Nobody has a problem with women “sponging” or gaming the system because everyone knows women have less earning power and more physical limits than men.
People can get into relationships for whatever reasons they want, be it money, love, protection, etc. That’s their business.
But likening it to prostitution is unnecessary. It’s called the “sex industry” for a reason. Getting married is transactional, as is prostitution. Marriage is an exclusive arrangement meant to be permanent with certain goals and outcomes. Prostitution is not permanent nor exclusive. Different goals and outcomes, too, which along with the risks that go with it that many people find objectionable.
Divorce is an extension of the sex trade, in my opinion. Part of my objection to divorce is it effectively is a form of prostitution in some cases. I have no problem with the transactional nature of marriage. It’s when it’s transactional to the degree that it compromises its own permanence and exclusivity that it causes problems for all involved. If it happened to me I’d never remarry.
In other term you'r saying...
25 Jul 2018, 3:08 pm
AnneOleson wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
And how your daughter was paying for this affordable one bedroom apartment before having a boyfriend? Did she have a job?
My other gripe is the fact that for women, its still seen as far more acceptable for them to be a parasite of some sort, whether its on their family, boyfriend, or husband. Why? Because they have body parts that 94% of men desire? Seems a pretty BS reason.
Two things: She is not a parasite if she is putting money towards the household expenses and doing household chores, even without putting out. Whether that money is earned by her getting a job or whether it is through a disability program is irrelevant. Same goes for men too. Do you think that these parasite women lie around all day, every day doing nothing except presenting those desirable body parts as needed?
Second, my son is on disability and found someone (semi long distance relationship) lived with them and a year later got married. He doesn’t drive either. She works, owns the car and does all the driving. Works ok for them. He has BPD, ASD, ADHD and some physical disabilities.
The problem is men like me on disability are seen as mooches and parasites.
Most people would say your sons worthless mooch and that his wife should leave him and find someone better. That he’s just using her as a taxi since he doesn’t drive or own a car.
I hope his wife doesn’t come to resent him, like women here said they did and would.
For thst I won’t ever accept rides, live with , eat their food, accept any gifts or have them pay for anything for me from women.
So living together with a gf or marriage is out of the question for most guys like me.
Just to be clear a guy working min wage full time is also a mooch and parasite apparently.
Lady I’m dating is applying for good jobs, if she gets one she probably stop dating me.
Money gotten from disability is stolen, don’t you know taxation is theft. It’s survival of the fittest, anyone else is suppose to die, preferably somewhere out of site as not to disturb the worthy people. But don’t kill yourself as that’s not ok either, just go lay in a ditch somewhere and slowly painful die like we deserve.
25 Jul 2018, 3:18 pm
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25 Jul 2018, 3:24 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
And how your daughter was paying for this affordable one bedroom apartment before having a boyfriend? Did she have a job?
My other gripe is the fact that for women, its still seen as far more acceptable for them to be a parasite of some sort, whether its on their family, boyfriend, or husband. Why? Because they have body parts that 94% of men desire? Seems a pretty BS reason.
Now c’mon RainbowUnion, be fair here.. if Bea had a hot young twink son with a desirable bussy, some sugar daddy might pay for his keep, too.
How can I acquire a such bussy?
Running, swimming, yoga, squats, Keto diet, and no beer - only the gayest drink in the world; vodka soda.
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25 Jul 2018, 3:28 pm
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25 Jul 2018, 3:38 pm
25 Jul 2018, 3:42 pm
Fnord wrote:
BeaArthur wrote:
... What is the moral of the story? Get yourself a social worker who knows the ropes...
... and never give up.Well done, Bea. Good on you!
My family would thoroughly reject every part of me if I did this. Both my parents are ivy league grads & the rest of my family is 100% academic. My only real money is in a college fund I don't want; I'm a self-trained hacker & software geek. Not interested in crowds. If things like that were respected professionally I doubt we would be discussing this. Worked eight years? Now you're ready for a starting job cberg! Our economy is sickeningly patronizing towards ambitious young anybody.
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25 Jul 2018, 3:46 pm
25 Jul 2018, 3:48 pm
Actually we are all screwed if we don't just all support each other. One socioeconomic convention is not enough.
If any of this inequity we're actually acceptable it wouldn't be a matter of debate.
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25 Jul 2018, 3:48 pm
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25 Jul 2018, 3:55 pm
BeaArthur wrote:
I notice everybody is commenting on my DAUGHTER and nobody is touching the 40 YEAR OLD MAN.
I guess he doesn't fit your pre-conceived ideas sufficiently.
I guess he doesn't fit your pre-conceived ideas sufficiently.
My reply:
cberg wrote:
Fnord wrote:
BeaArthur wrote:
... What is the moral of the story? Get yourself a social worker who knows the ropes...
... and never give up.Well done, Bea. Good on you!
My family would thoroughly reject every part of me if I did this. Both my parents are ivy league grads & the rest of my family is 100% academic. My only real money is in a college fund I don't want; I'm a self-trained hacker & software geek. Not interested in crowds. If things like that were respected professionally I doubt we would be discussing this. Worked eight years? Now you're ready for a starting job cberg! Our economy is sickeningly patronizing towards ambitious young anybody.
(I'm 24)
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25 Jul 2018, 3:58 pm
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