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26 Dec 2010, 12:30 pm

I'm not just gonna blindly fallow something because you or anyone says so
I am my own person, who chooses my own life.
I know what I want, and I am not the sort to blindly wallow because he can't have something

you don't know me at all

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26 Dec 2010, 12:31 pm

Kilroy wrote:

Whether or not you openly complain about something is a separate matter from whether or not you need or want it.

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26 Dec 2010, 12:34 pm

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I used to, but that was more...well I think it was only cause I wanted to fit in
now I couldn't care less about fitting in and will get to it on my own damn time
I have a lot more important things to deal with then trying to bother with dating
I am not good at it, so its not something I am choosing to do before easier things (like school, and work, etc)

As Maslow's Hierarchy says, work comes before love and acceptance anyway. Once those are fulfilled, you'll start to desire a relationship again. It's our nature, and that graph was created by a famous psychologist who carried out many studies to come to his conclusions. Over history, it's generally proven to be true.

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so what? some people have employment goals that are never reached either (which, according to the graph, is more important), and that type of situation isn't bad enough to expect the world to change itself to fix things for their sake.

unfulfilled DESIRES are not needs. your graph is an arbitrary construiction based on opinion, not fact.

A person who can't reach whatever goal is needed for them to be financially secure will have unfulfilled psychological needs, yes.

It's also human nature to convince yourself you don't want something if you feel you can't get it. Say, for example, if you wanted a certain house while you were looking to move, but you couldn't afford the mortgage on it, you'd convince yourself you never really wanted it anyway by focusing on any flaw it had, no matter how insignificant.

maslow's hierarchy of needs is not actually based on any research. it fails to explain why (for example, off the top of my head):

-a hobbyist could be starving yet work on her hobbies endlessly
-a soldier and a civilian may have sex near an active battlefield
-a poor person will give away their last cent to a person less fortunate
-a younger sister in love will step aside in some cultures and allow her older sister to marry the man that she adores

i do not accept maslow's basic argument (along with many other people), and recent research blows it completely out of the water. so if you are using maslow as some kind of proof of sex being a need, it does not wash.

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26 Dec 2010, 12:37 pm

Asp-Z wrote:

Kilroy wrote:

Whether or not you openly complain about something is a separate matter from whether or not you need or want it.

I can honestly tell you I don't need it
nor do I want it at this moment as there is no one I like in that way

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26 Dec 2010, 12:38 pm

Asp-Z wrote:

Kilroy wrote:

Whether or not you openly complain about something is a separate matter from whether or not you need or want it.

I can honestly tell you I don't need it
nor do I want it at this moment as there is no one I like in that way

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26 Dec 2010, 12:39 pm

The fact that humans need sex is, well, a fact. I don't need Maslow to explain that.

Humans, by nature, obsess over sex, crave sex, talk about sex, and have strong urges to perform sex, for a large portion of their lives. Again, this is so we can reproduce and continue the species, the same way we enjoy eating because we need to do it in order to survive.

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26 Dec 2010, 12:41 pm

no, thats western society
you know nothing about this, and are just spouting stereotypical "AS male" s**t, that so many men here say to try and convince people they're more deserving
its all crap

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26 Dec 2010, 12:44 pm

Asp-Z wrote:

masturbation satisfies the physical need, and social, familial and emotional bonds can satisfy the rest. people want more, and they can sometimes get more, but that doesn't mean it has to happen or that anyone has an intrinsic right to it. in human society there will always be some people who have those desires unfulfilled. which is definitely sad but it is the situation right across the animal kingdom.

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26 Dec 2010, 12:46 pm

Kilroy wrote:

no, thats western society
you know nothing about this, and are just spouting stereotypical "AS male" sh**, that so many men here say to try and convince people they're more deserving
its all crap

It has nothing to do with Asperger's males or deserving anything. Humans, by nature, desire sex. That's just a fact.

We as a species don't have an obsession with sex because of society, but rather, society has an obsession with sex because of us.

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I never said everyone gets their needs fulfilled, nor did I say that everyone necessarily deserves to. I'm just saying that everyone feels the need.

I have a loving family and I can have a good w*k, but that don't mean I don't desire more.

People feel they need more - that's what a psychological need is. I never said you wouldn't exist if you didn't get it.

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26 Dec 2010, 12:47 pm

The fact that mastubation fulfills the physical need is not a viewpoint I share.

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26 Dec 2010, 12:49 pm

yeah but saying we're all weak because...you think so, is rather insulting
I don't really agree with anything you're saying

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26 Dec 2010, 12:50 pm

Kilroy wrote:

yeah but saying we're all weak because...you think so, is rather insulting
I don't really agree with anything you're saying

Is this directed at me?

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26 Dec 2010, 12:50 pm

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yeah but saying we're all weak because...you think so, is rather insulting
I don't really agree with anything you're saying

I never said anyone was weak... You've been jumping to a lot of conclusions throughout this thread.

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26 Dec 2010, 1:02 pm

Talking about love, I found a lovely lady this year and next year I plan to propose! She will definately turn me down because she is already taken, but hey, at least I proposed to someone!

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26 Dec 2010, 1:05 pm

I just feel my time is going to run out soon. Unless a girl is so f****d in the head, I doubt I can find a girlfriend even though everyone says I have a lot going for me. I might as well just kill myself.

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26 Dec 2010, 1:07 pm

why do I bother

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