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09 Jul 2018, 6:31 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
But I answered your question, Sir. I have my opinion.

Do what you want, buddy.

Somehow.....I think no matter what I say, I’ll get a negative response from you. I have no idea why that is.

Maybe just say you THINK you might be autistic.

I don't know where your answer is, I must have missed it.
Saying I think I have autism is, for the woman, same as saying I have it. I am talking from experience, on that specific point.
But, there could be an issue here where women in your country are a lot different about this than mine.
If the woman asks, I have to come up with some answer, not silence. You know what, I can just say I don't think I have anything, and tell her she has nothing to worry about. Thats it.



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09 Jul 2018, 8:38 am

If you won’t get violent with her, or emotionally take stuff out on her, then I don’t believe you have anything to “confess.”

Autism is a poorly-understood disorder worldwide.



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09 Jul 2018, 8:54 am

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The DSM has “medical” diagnoses, too

If your diagnosis is a DSM code, it’s a certified diagnosis.

The diagnosis of ASD must be given by a psychiatrist or PhD psychologist.

It doesn’t necessarily get you benefits or accommodations, though it usually does in schools and colleges. More rarely in employment.

Basically, if no diagnosis, why tell her you “might” have autism? You’re not being dishonest if you don’t tell her anything about your “autism,” since you might not “have” it.



I disagree.

Psychiatric diagnoses are not real medical diagnoses.

There's a fundamental difference between the two ;
In a medical diagnosis, you may have the disease even if you don't have the symptoms - symptoms are merely possible signs for some disease but you don't have to have the symptoms in order to diagnosed with a specific disease; for example you may have a brain tumor but, for some reason, you don't have any of the typical symptoms (ie. headache, vomiting...etc). The lack of symptoms however doesn't nullify the fact that you have a brain tumor, because the brain tumor can be SEEN in brain scans and may even in some blood biomarkers.

However, in DSM, the diagnosis IS the symptoms ; so if you don't have the symptoms then you don't have the condition. In DSM; Symptoms = disorder. So if you don't have any AS symptoms then you don't have AS.



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09 Jul 2018, 9:11 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
The DSM has “medical” diagnoses, too

If your diagnosis is a DSM code, it’s a certified diagnosis.

The diagnosis of ASD must be given by a psychiatrist or PhD psychologist.

It doesn’t necessarily get you benefits or accommodations, though it usually does in schools and colleges. More rarely in employment.

Basically, if no diagnosis, why tell her you “might” have autism? You’re not being dishonest if you don’t tell her anything about your “autism,” since you might not “have” it.



I disagree.

Psychiatric diagnoses are not real medical diagnoses.

There's a fundamental difference between the two ;
In a medical diagnosis, you may have the disease even if you don't have the symptoms - symptoms are merely possible signs for some disease but you don't have to have the symptoms in order to diagnosed with a specific disease; for example you may have a brain tumor but, for some reason, you don't have any of the typical symptoms (ie. headache, vomiting...etc). The lack of symptoms however doesn't nullify the fact that you have a brain tumor, because the brain tumor can be SEEN in brain scans and may even in some blood biomarkers.

However, in DSM, the diagnosis IS the symptoms ; so if you don't have the symptoms then you don't have the condition. In DSM; Symptoms = disorder. So if you don't have any AS symptoms then you don't have AS.


And you can be displaying symptoms of a "medical" condition, and, while the doctors may have no idea what's wrong with you, they will still agree that there is something amiss.

You have entirely too much faith in medical institutions.


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09 Jul 2018, 11:14 am

XFilesGeek wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
The DSM has “medical” diagnoses, too

If your diagnosis is a DSM code, it’s a certified diagnosis.

The diagnosis of ASD must be given by a psychiatrist or PhD psychologist.

It doesn’t necessarily get you benefits or accommodations, though it usually does in schools and colleges. More rarely in employment.

Basically, if no diagnosis, why tell her you “might” have autism? You’re not being dishonest if you don’t tell her anything about your “autism,” since you might not “have” it.



I disagree.

Psychiatric diagnoses are not real medical diagnoses.

There's a fundamental difference between the two ;
In a medical diagnosis, you may have the disease even if you don't have the symptoms - symptoms are merely possible signs for some disease but you don't have to have the symptoms in order to diagnosed with a specific disease; for example you may have a brain tumor but, for some reason, you don't have any of the typical symptoms (ie. headache, vomiting...etc). The lack of symptoms however doesn't nullify the fact that you have a brain tumor, because the brain tumor can be SEEN in brain scans and may even in some blood biomarkers.

However, in DSM, the diagnosis IS the symptoms ; so if you don't have the symptoms then you don't have the condition. In DSM; Symptoms = disorder. So if you don't have any AS symptoms then you don't have AS.


And you can be displaying symptoms of a "medical" condition, and, while the doctors may have no idea what's wrong with you, they will still agree that there is something amiss.

You have entirely too much faith in medical institutions.



Not really, but I have zero faith in psychiatric institutions.



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09 Jul 2018, 12:37 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
The DSM has “medical” diagnoses, too

If your diagnosis is a DSM code, it’s a certified diagnosis.

The diagnosis of ASD must be given by a psychiatrist or PhD psychologist.

It doesn’t necessarily get you benefits or accommodations, though it usually does in schools and colleges. More rarely in employment.

Basically, if no diagnosis, why tell her you “might” have autism? You’re not being dishonest if you don’t tell her anything about your “autism,” since you might not “have” it.



I disagree.

Psychiatric diagnoses are not real medical diagnoses.

There's a fundamental difference between the two ;
In a medical diagnosis, you may have the disease even if you don't have the symptoms - symptoms are merely possible signs for some disease but you don't have to have the symptoms in order to diagnosed with a specific disease; for example you may have a brain tumor but, for some reason, you don't have any of the typical symptoms (ie. headache, vomiting...etc). The lack of symptoms however doesn't nullify the fact that you have a brain tumor, because the brain tumor can be SEEN in brain scans and may even in some blood biomarkers.

However, in DSM, the diagnosis IS the symptoms ; so if you don't have the symptoms then you don't have the condition. In DSM; Symptoms = disorder. So if you don't have any AS symptoms then you don't have AS.


And you can be displaying symptoms of a "medical" condition, and, while the doctors may have no idea what's wrong with you, they will still agree that there is something amiss.

You have entirely too much faith in medical institutions.



Not really, but I have zero faith in psychiatric institutions.


^ Fair enough.

I've just seen enough doctors proceed with WAGs that I no longer have much of a problem considering my ASD diagnosis as "real."


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09 Jul 2018, 1:10 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
If you won’t get violent with her, or emotionally take stuff out on her, then I don’t believe you have anything to “confess.”

Autism is a poorly-understood disorder worldwide.


Also, it gives her an advantage if she is abusive.



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09 Jul 2018, 4:10 pm

Tequila wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
If you won’t get violent with her, or emotionally take stuff out on her, then I don’t believe you have anything to “confess.”

Autism is a poorly-understood disorder worldwide.


Also, it gives her an advantage if she is abusive.

Absolutely this


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13 Jul 2018, 7:15 am

I am happy that there's an increasing number of men now who are convinced that telling a future gf of autism is a bad thing.

When I first joined WP, everyone encouraged to disclose it even on a dating profile.

I think we are collectively getting more mature.



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13 Jul 2018, 7:19 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I am happy that there's an increasing number of men now who are convinced that telling a future gf of autism is a bad thing.

When I first joined WP, everyone encouraged to disclose it even on a dating profile.

I think we are collectively getting more mature.


On a dating site it's a target if you're not protected.



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27 Jul 2018, 9:25 pm

Let them get to know the real you before you reveal that information.


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