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25 Jul 2018, 3:59 pm

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I notice everybody is commenting on my DAUGHTER and nobody is touching the 40 YEAR OLD MAN.

I guess he doesn't fit your pre-conceived ideas sufficiently.

What 40 old man?

People are commenting cause you expect more from men here then you expect from your daughter.



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25 Jul 2018, 4:00 pm

I've worked in the world's largest software firm.

There are no "real jobs". Total myth. Don't let people sell you that trip.


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25 Jul 2018, 4:01 pm

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Actually we are all screwed if we don't just all support each other. One socioeconomic convention is not enough.

If any of this inequity we're actually acceptable it wouldn't be a matter of debate.

What but anyone who can’t contrib to society is suppose to die. Only the well off deserve to live. Don’t you know :roll:



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25 Jul 2018, 4:02 pm

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I've worked in the world's largest software firm.

There are no "real jobs". Total myth. Don't let people sell you that trip.

I think doctors, lawyers, therapists, police, stock brokers, etc would disagree.
Real job= middle class income.



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25 Jul 2018, 4:05 pm

That's just social darwinism messing up your perception. Of course my contributions to the electronics world are a real job & I take pride in it as such but my family doesn't. I'm a black sheep where academia and capitalism are concerned but that has nothing to do with my skill or knowledge.

I can't stand money. It makes people do this. I'm just going to sit back & help make technology free for everyone because this is pointless.


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25 Jul 2018, 4:12 pm

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And how your daughter was paying for this affordable one bedroom apartment before having a boyfriend? Did she have a job?


My other gripe is the fact that for women, its still seen as far more acceptable for them to be a parasite of some sort, whether its on their family, boyfriend, or husband. Why? Because they have body parts that 94% of men desire? Seems a pretty BS reason.


Now c’mon RainbowUnion, be fair here.. if Bea had a hot young twink son with a desirable bussy, some sugar daddy might pay for his keep, too.


Yeah, but thats far, far, far less common and you know it. Its also not seen as socialiy acceptable, whereas the other one is.


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25 Jul 2018, 4:17 pm

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And how your daughter was paying for this affordable one bedroom apartment before having a boyfriend? Did she have a job?

She got government to pay for it. Though housing usually only pays 75% of rent. I guessing maybe her daughter is on disability. All such things are fine with women, but for men makes you a worthless unlovable loser.


Yes. Because the thinking is that she can marry a doctor, lawyer, etc, ie a MAN who will set her up.


In my country (note: a middle eastern country), unmarried and unemployment daughters have the right to continue recieving the retirement income of their highest earning deceased parents for life *regardless of age and health condition*, unless they get married.
Sons can’t unless: 1) they’re less than 18 but it stops once they’re 18.
2) it’s confirmed by a medical committe of having a disability (note. only very serious conditions like down syndome, advanced cancer or being handicaped; things like AS or HDD aren’t even viewed as disabilities here)

You can imagine how many unmarried daughters would prefer to remain unemployed and receive retirement income later which would be higher than low paid entry jobs.


Can they choose to pursue a career instead of remaining unemployed and receiving that money though?


They can, many do.



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25 Jul 2018, 4:19 pm

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And how your daughter was paying for this affordable one bedroom apartment before having a boyfriend? Did she have a job?


My other gripe is the fact that for women, its still seen as far more acceptable for them to be a parasite of some sort, whether its on their family, boyfriend, or husband. Why? Because they have body parts that 94% of men desire? Seems a pretty BS reason.


Two things: She is not a parasite if she is putting money towards the household expenses and doing household chores, even without putting out. Whether that money is earned by her getting a job or whether it is through a disability program is irrelevant. Same goes for men too. Do you think that these parasite women lie around all day, every day doing nothing except presenting those desirable body parts as needed?

Second, my son is on disability and found someone (semi long distance relationship) lived with them and a year later got married. He doesn’t drive either. She works, owns the car and does all the driving. Works ok for them. He has BPD, ASD, ADHD and some physical disabilities.


Lots of women have abandoned the household chores thing. And yeah, most get married and then tie down the man with kids precisely so they can lie around doing nothing all day. She has the law on her side, and he can end up with nothing and or in jail on her word.

And as for sex, it shocks me how most women dont have a clue as to male needs and male sexuality. How many times have I had to explain, very slowly, to some woman online that if her husband is like most guys, he will probably never loose interest in it, and it cant just be shut off and will not go away when he reaches a certain age. He is not an animal for wanting it, he is not unreasonably demanding either. He is a normal guy with a normal drive, and a reasonable expectation of having regular sex with the woman he supports and loves. From a Darwinian POV he is totally justified in seeking it elsewhere too.


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25 Jul 2018, 4:22 pm

I don't think this thread is actually about limitations, rather how to live without dumb unwritten rules.

I'm not interested in the materialistic side of anyone I know anyway. I don't care what people expect of me monetarily or in terms of status because there are much better things I have to offer. Perhaps I'm the least datable guy EVER, whatever; I'd still love to teach you about quantum cryptography or cell biology or skiing.


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25 Jul 2018, 4:24 pm

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And how your daughter was paying for this affordable one bedroom apartment before having a boyfriend? Did she have a job?

She got government to pay for it. Though housing usually only pays 75% of rent. I guessing maybe her daughter is on disability. All such things are fine with women, but for men makes you a worthless unlovable loser.



Don’t men on disability get those perks too?


Yes but again men in disability= unlovable losers
Women on disability =dateable

The only time I hear any negative about women and benifits is the claim women have lots of kids to get welfare, otherwise I don’t hear disabled women called losers, parasites, thief’s, drain on society, worthless etc. men are expected to be successful, providers, women have no expectations to be successful since society deems it fine for them to just mooch off men.

If her daughter was a son he wouldn’t found some woman willing to let him live with her and provide for him. That doesn’t happen. Men on housing or disability are seen as the worse of worse, lowest of low. Homeless men are seen as better then men on disability as atleast they don’t accept stolen money as benifits and survive on their own.
But society says it’s fine and good for women who can’t provide for them to get benefits.
I bet you if they made all government benefits for women only the republicans would be fine with and support it. They just don’t like supporting worthless men was such men should die if they can’t be a successful middle class man.

I’ve had women on benifits reject me for being on benefits.

For record I not saying women in benefits themselves don’t feel like parasites or worthless, just that society doesn’t see them as such. Society still sees and treats women as fragile beings that need coddling as sexist as that is. Unless they see them with 5 plus kids who each get welfare. But single women with no kids on welfare is fine with society.


People have absolutely told me I'm a loser because of my job.

And, in low-income, customer-service jobs, it's not the case that customers are only sh_tty and disrespectful to male employees. If reincarnation is real, some of the men on this forum had better elect to stay men because they sure as heck wouldn't enjoy the reality of being a woman.

Lastly, it's more acceptable for men to support women (in society's eyes) because women are still expected to be the primary care-takers of children.


Child care is a role that women have made very clear they dont want anymore, at least in the West.


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25 Jul 2018, 4:29 pm

Wives of upper class men never do house chores, they have maids for that - who are typically poor women from poor countries.

Honestly? Wives of wealthy men are the category of people who have the easiest life on earth, even easier than the life of their wealthy men themselves. No wonder why many women want wealthy men.



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25 Jul 2018, 4:32 pm

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Wives of upper class men never do house chores, they have maids for that - who are typically poor women from poor countries.

Honestly? Wives of wealthy men are the category of people who have the easiest life on earth, even easier than the life of their wealthy men themselves. No wonder why many women want wealthy men.


Sure, and that has solid Darwinian support. Best choice of resources and best genes.


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25 Jul 2018, 4:48 pm

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Wives of upper class men never do house chores, they have maids for that - who are typically poor women from poor countries.

Honestly? Wives of wealthy men are the category of people who have the easiest life on earth, even easier than the life of their wealthy men themselves. No wonder why many women want wealthy men.


Sure, and that has solid Darwinian support. Best choice of resources and best genes.


My workplace is in the city's downtown where there's a very luxurious souk nearby that only rich people can afford the brands there - I often pass by this area to have my lunch break somewhere. Everytime when I look around there, I notice that 90% of people there are women doing shopping at noon (so I bet none of those who have jobs or careers) , typically with 1-2 kids and an Asian or African nanny, there's always the nanny wearing the maid costume, the nanny is always the one who supervises the kids and plays with them in the plaza there .

Same when I go to some luxurious pools/beach on some weekday on which I took a day off - because of a coupon i bought that is only valid on weekdays - i see very very few men at these times, yet a lot of moms with nannies, the nanny does everything... even oiling the kids!

So can you imagine how stress-free and permanent-vacation-life the life of these women? Their wealthy men on the other hand have to keep working hard to maintain their wealth.



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25 Jul 2018, 5:12 pm

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I notice everybody is commenting on my DAUGHTER and nobody is touching the 40 YEAR OLD MAN.

I guess he doesn't fit your pre-conceived ideas sufficiently.

What 40 old man?

People are commenting cause you expect more from men here then you expect from your daughter.


Possibly my son. That’s his age.



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25 Jul 2018, 5:22 pm

People shouldn't be knocking other peoples' kids....



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25 Jul 2018, 5:30 pm

For that matter it's helpful to acknowledge that our idea of adulthood could be 100% made up anyway. Case in point, the white house.

I parent my parents pretty often.


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