People letting themselves go once in a relationship.

There are things gym guys don't talk about in front of women; that's why you are surprised, but they advice other guys of all those stuff, I've heard them all: Testosterone injections, growth hormones, steroids, muscle drinks not found in pharmacies, crazy amount of proteins, localized fatburner for six packs...etc
It is even way more common than voluntary vomitting among women bu the media don't talk much about men's issues.
Here, we can even find examples on WP of women being fooled and thinking this guy Kazuki/wolfheart is being naturally fit, this post was legendary!

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5491859.html
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5238410.html
but this is a sample of what happens a lot in life, a lot of women being fooled in the same fashion and think what's unnatural natural; I would even go extreme, you might even date and have sex with a fit guy that you may think he obtained his body thro hard work out only without knowing what he's taking until some point, that's because a lot of these stuff are taken in the gym change rooms.
lol, wasn't there a youtube video(that he made himself) of him bench-pressing a relatively small amount with horrible form?
He bench pressed 109,5 kg with horrible form. I can do much more than that (and I haven't lifted for longer than he has), and so can you, judging from some of your posts. In his videos, he looked a lot smaller than he did in his pictures.
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Puss-in-boots, I am neither "white" nor "black" in muscularity, I as an example very grey, I am only slightly muscled and one of the least muscled among the gym regulars.
Thing is, before I get my new body, I have never received such sexual attention on any dating site over like I dunno, over years(not even once, never ever), once I've put a pic of me with the new body (experimenting) - and BOOM, attention from all over the world, one after one, and even got dates with some of the locals, nothing was changed in profile except my pic (and my body); I've changed it later to a beach pic to filter such attention load but still made little difference.
Anyway I've stopped all activity on dating sites, so I am no longer getting that - it was just a phase but it taught me that a lot of women can be as visual as men.
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I can echo tarantella's empirical knowledge of women - most women DO talk about sex with their girlfriends, and DON'T engage in cybersex with strangers (and, in light of some of the things my women friends *have* confided in me, no, there's absolutely no reason they wouldn't have mentioned cybering if they were doing it).
Also, I have yet to meet a woman who thinks serious bodybuilding in men is hot. Not one, and I have women friends ranging in age from early 20s to late 70s. I swear that a lot of guys do that muscle-y stuff to impress other guys, just like many women who place paramount importance on being fashionably dressed - they do it to impress other women, not to impress men. Not in a homosexual way, just by way of competition.
Well he has had cyber sex and cam sex with these women but that's all it is, a fantasy, a pornographic moment where Face of Boo strips for the women on cam.
Did I say I stripped anything?

But yeah, it was a fantasy moment of theirs - which reflect some of their sexual preferences; at least at times, I am not claiming I know what other things turn them on in life and in other settings.
However the frequency of such... online incidents (and the comments abt muscles- not necessarily involving any cyber intention) made me convinced that this is a commonly desired trait among a lot of women.
Perhaps having a better body worked as a placebo effect in which you felt more confident in yourself and made you carry yourself better which made women more attracted to you? Just a theory but you went from having a negative self image to a positive one.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-bera ... 99583.html
http://www.jimstoppani.com/home/article ... gs?preview
Never mind the fact that Reg Park ate 30 eggs (with yolks) everyday.
I can bench press more than 150 kgs. Never attempted a max at pull-ups, but I can do BW (104) kg + 35 kg attached to the belt 8 times on a good day.
I also had to do a lot to get a 50 resting heart rate again and there are many damaging effects it can have on your blood pressure. At one point, I was taking around four to five grams a week including orals like Anadrol, I am telling you to learn from that.
Good to know. However, two grams of testosterone per week is more than three times what Arnold took, and eight times what Scooby1961 (according to rumors) uses. Neither of them have used Trenbolone. Orals like Dianabol are much more dangerous than testosterone shots, and Trenbolone isn't even approved for use on humans, just livestock.
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I'm not on steroids. I'm building a natural foundation first, and I don't think steroids are the smartest thing to spend money on while I'm still working on my master's degree.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-bera ... 99583.html
http://www.jimstoppani.com/home/article ... gs?preview
Never mind the fact that Reg Park ate 30 eggs (with yolks) everyday.
I can bench press more than 150 kgs. Never attempted a max at pull-ups, but I can do BW (104) kg + 35 kg attached to the belt 8 times on a good day.
I also had to do a lot to get a 50 resting heart rate again and there are many damaging effects it can have on your blood pressure. At one point, I was taking around four to five grams a week including orals like Anadrol, I am telling you to learn from that.
Good to know. However, two grams of testosterone per week is more than three times what Arnold took, and eight times what Scooby1961 (according to rumors) uses. Neither of them have used Trenbolone. Orals like Dianabol are much more dangerous than testosterone shots, and Trenbolone isn't even approved for use on humans, just livestock.
Indeed but even still, I believe current professional bodybuilders take HGH, Insulin and very heavy dosage if you go on muscle websites where steroids are allowed to be discussed. It is something that is addictive and certain drugs act as so gateway drugs. If you look at Greg Valentino, I don't think he ever intended to inject synthol into himself. Nonetheless, you can inject all you want but Ronnie was a mutant mass power lifter even in his teenage years and Arnold had perfect symmetry so genetics, hard work, nutrition and steroids all play a fundamental role in obtaining that perfect Olympia physique that looks unattainable to the majority of people.
My point is, what's the point in taking testosterone just to put 50lbs on your bench press? Who is really going to care? As long as you look good, healthy, feel strong in yourself and it helps you attract women, why do you feel the desire to inject?
I'm not on steroids. I'm building a natural foundation first, and I don't think steroids are the smartest thing to spend money on while I'm still working on my master's degree.
What I can't understand is that why you feel the need to dictate what others do in their free time, if someone doesn't want to spend time in the gym, why dictate them to do that? If you force a woman to change, you will just end up hurting her. Do you have a girlfriend and does she go to the gym?
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And oh Eureka and tarantella, I was thinking...
Since you described me being a box and stubborn about my opinion, I think you are also stuck in a box of "My girlfriends never tell me they like such x things then I am 100% sure they never like such x things, and I am 100% sure that most women don't like such x things".
Well, first of all, your girlfriends aren't most women or represent a lot of women.
And second, it's not their duty to tell you every private thing they might like or do , do you tell and show your girlfriends every post you write on Wrongplanet for example? Or every activity you do at home? I mean, come on!
Also telling me that I don't understand "the nature of women friendships" is kinda sexist and implying as if I am of different species - what I know that most humans have secrets that aren't told to everyone, this is a common sense and I don't have to be a woman to know that women have their untold secrets as well.
Sure tarantella, it much likely a girlfriend of yours would tell how she had sex with a recent boyfriend or some hot likable man with all the details of the act, but it's much less likely that she would tell you how she ever masturbated over the phone with a 20 years old guy.
As I said, never be totally sure you know everything about their sex lives - and they are not obliged to tell you everything.
I'm not on steroids. I'm building a natural foundation first, and I don't think steroids are the smartest thing to spend money on while I'm still working on my master's degree.
What I can't understand is that why you feel the need to dictate what others do in their free time, if someone doesn't want to spend time in the gym, why dictate them to do that? If you force a woman to change, you will just end up hurting her. Do you have a girlfriend and does she go to the gym?
I haven't tried to dicate anything. My original point was that anyone with enough time to watch Netflix series for hours every evening and play Candy Crush Saga (this is an average weekday for many full-time employees), also have more than enough time for exercise. I don't have a girlfriend; my previous serious girlfriend actually went from skinny fat to lean of her own free will when I was dating her.
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I can echo tarantella's empirical knowledge of women - most women DO talk about sex with their girlfriends, and DON'T engage in cybersex with strangers (and, in light of some of the things my women friends *have* confided in me, no, there's absolutely no reason they wouldn't have mentioned cybering if they were doing it).
Also, I have yet to meet a woman who thinks serious bodybuilding in men is hot. Not one, and I have women friends ranging in age from early 20s to late 70s. I swear that a lot of guys do that muscle-y stuff to impress other guys, just like many women who place paramount importance on being fashionably dressed - they do it to impress other women, not to impress men. Not in a homosexual way, just by way of competition.
Well he has had cyber sex and cam sex with these women but that's all it is, a fantasy, a pornographic moment where Face of Boo strips for the women on cam.
Did I say I stripped anything?

But yeah, it was a fantasy moment of theirs - which reflect some of their sexual preferences; at least at times, I am not claiming I know what other things turn them on in life and in other settings.
However the frequency of such... online incidents (and the comments abt muscles- not necessarily involving any cyber intention) made me convinced that this is a commonly desired trait among a lot of women.
Perhaps having a better body worked as a placebo effect in which you felt more confident in yourself and made you carry yourself better which made women more attracted to you? Just a theory but you went from having a negative self image to a positive one.
Nah man, this is too hyperbolic, placebo effect lol ....it's just a picture.
And I am still the same, with the same low self-esteem, the reason why I've joined a gym in the first was because it was newly opened just few meters away from my home, and I was during a socially depressant phase, I wasn't having any friends (the few friends from school traveled abroad or got married, contact with university colleagues faded fast after graduation...), and my coworkers were all in relationships and rarely involve me in their couple-activities. Over 5 years of my life I've spent whole weekends after weekends without any hanging out or human contact; so I needed a new venue for socialization and the proximity of this gym to my house was tempting - since that I didn't have a car, also my medical tests showed I had a low HDL back then and doctor told me to do some sports.
From gym I've joined its related hiking club as well, and made socialization efforts, and made friends in the process that I am hanging out with like every other weekend - none of them is gym junkie or look like gym regulars btw (all varieties of overweight to skinny).
Now I cam foresee that you're gonna theorize and say that having friends made me more attractive


I can tell you from now that they can't see that in pictures, since I've never included others in pics on dating sites.
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Well, let's see......who am I more likely to believe: someone (many someones) I've been friends with for years, or a stranger on the internet?
Maybe guys don't share these kinds of intimate details with their guy friends, and maybe the women in your culture don't, but U.S. women definitely do. I'm not going to give you specific examples of the kinds of things women friends have told me (some who over-shared were barely acquaintances, to the point where I was extremely uncomfortable hearing their "confessions"), but I am certain that some of them would shock you. Cybering (even with a total stranger) is laughingly mild compared to some of the things I've heard.
Strange-totem-face-in-a-liquid-filled-glass-jar, I agree with you on the fact that women too are visual creatures and I?m not going to lie a certain amount of muscle on a guy is pretty hot, so I don?t doubt at all the attention you were getting. However my point was maybe you and tarantella actually agree on this subject? Maybe your physique (or the type you?re defending) fits in just fine with what tarantella thinks is a nice, fit looking body, but instead at the moment she is getting the impression that you?re referring to the type of guy who can?t fit in his t-shirts anymore and she is arguing against women liking something as extreme as that. And I wholeheartedly agree with her on that, I strongly doubt that the majority will ever prefer the really bulked up kind of beast who has veins popping everywhere, to a muscular yet normally proportioned fit guy. The extremes are always something that is adored by a minority.
And I'm sure you could've put up a picture of yourself with more clothes on, if all the attention was really getting to be too much.
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Lebanese, Turks, Moroccans, Tunisians, Filipinas, Koreans, Japaneses, Indonesians (my goodness...), Indians, Australians, Americans(see the plural), Mexicans, one German, one Swiss, one Dutch, two from Albania, one Egyptian....
Well those some of their nationalities, the ones I recall for now.
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Wait, according to most of the other guys on WP, isn't it the women who get all the messages on dating sites? You've gotten smutty messages from more different nationalities of women than the number of any messages at all that all the other men on here, combined (per their recounting of their experiences), have received in total! You must really have the right stuff, Boo!
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