Living with parents kind of puts the kibosh on dating?

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This is hilarious. So much projection. I didn't rip on anyone ... well at least not by name, if they choose to think "loser" applies to them, that's their business.

I *think* Goldfish is just trolling, ratcheting up the charges to see what kind of drama he can create. After all, I've seen him do that before.

HistoryGal, thanks for your support, but what are you protecting me from? I don't care if this bunch of losers - I'm not naming anyone, but you know who you are - wants to lie about me.

And that’s going to seem cheap as chips as my father’s generation begins to retire. He’s 65 in November - and so are MANY skilled tradesmen, and there arent enough young apprentices to replace them because my generation wants to work in the knowledge economy.. meanwhile, tech people still need walls around them, so, hard working (physically) people in my generation or younger will do very well as plumbers, electricians, carpenters, flooring installers, painters, glaziers etc etc.

Sure, it’s not Wall Street big money, but the probability of earning six figures as a tradesman is now far higher than the probability of earning six figures pushing paper or programming. Very simple laws of supply & demand at play.

And as you pointed out earlier, healthcare is also a solid career path choice.

I believe unemployment will become less.....because the Baby Boomers are starting to get old.

Health Care is going to be "Booming!"

Wtf? You called sly a loser without actually saying his username but did provide enough info to determine without a doubt that that is in fact who you were calling a loser and now here you are doing it again. And you think it’s hilarious, too. Pretty ironic considering you’ve accused me of coming here to bash others for my own entertainment (which I do not do, ever.) and now here you are openly stating that that is exactly what you are doing. Bad form, Bea, bad form. Even for an autistic person this is pretty socially unacceptable behaviour.

And now again you’re accusing Me of doing what You are doing. You’re projecting just like Trump right now - trying to distract from your own misdoings by suggesting that someone else has done them. Rather pathetic.

And now you call us all losers. I wonder if this is how you treat others in real life, too. Good old fashioned “push down, pop up,” insulting everyone else around you in a sad attempt to somehow make you appear superior. It seems you still have a lot of social learning and progress to make in life yet, despite being 60 some odd years old.

Goldfish, stop picking on sly. He's a nice guy and he tries his best. You should be ashamed of yourself.

If somebody calls me a "loser," I just ignore.

I know I'm not a "loser."

If somebody insults me, period, I usually just ignore.

When somebody insults me, it's usually because the other person has the problem. And I'm confident in myself that I am not what the person says I am. So I don't even bother to argue. I let the other person languish in his/her ignorance. That's punishment enough!

I wrote a long novel and deleted it. I must have lived a sheltered 61 years. I’ve been married. I’ve been a single parent. I’ve dated as a single parent. I have nieces and nephews. Great-nieces and great-nephews and a great-great niece. I’ve heard life opinions from a broad range of family members. Some work outside the home. Some work in the home being the primary child care person and house care person. Both nieces and nephews have been the primary home/child care person. The ones who were the homemakers were not mooches or parasites. They were hard working. I can’t think of anyone I know who would not be offended by some of the anti-women attitudes expressed here. And also the anti-disabled comments. No one should be shamed for being unable to work, or have their work hours or job limited because of their disability. You do what you can do. There is nothing wrong with sharing your home and expenses. That’s what couples do. Why not other family members? There’s also nothing wrong with wanting to live on your own.

After all of that, to go back to the original thought behind this thread - if I was in a position to date again I would have no problems dating a man who lived with his family. But I doubt that I would want to “sleep-over” if there was only a thin wall between his bedroom and the others. And to those who seem to think they are experts on the sex habits of all genders of all ages you’re not.

And I don’t recall Bea having gender specific rules and opinions here. She named no one, gave her daughter as an example and gave a male example - 40 year old man. I think that some are indeed trying to work others up and its several who are doing that, not just one or two. I really hope some of you are exaggerating your world views.

I never said that.

I asked what happens after x# of hours that prevents you from completing an 8h work day?

I ask because I am genuinely curious what constrains you from working more in order to A) understand it, and B) possibly suggest things you can do to overcome said constraints.

I’m not here to rip on you for not putting in 40 hours. I’d much rather recommend how you might be able to work up from 15 to 20, then to 25, in to 30, and eventually a full 40 even if it takes a year or two to accomplish.

More projecting from Bea.

I’ve suggested jobs he could manage and other positive things, as well as defended him from your mocking & insults. Meanwhile you’ve just openly called him a loser a few times over.

No its not only Bea. There have been several men stating that women get free room and board for presenting their “desirable parts”. Women are being labeled as takers and never givers. Women have been labeled as physically weak and simply because of their gender unable to match a mans earning power. Home care and child care apparently has no value, at least in comparison to the cash the eternally hard working man brings home.

Whether by killing a wild beast and dragging it back to the cave to cook on a fire, or earning a paycheque, men have always been providers & protectors. This has not changed, even in modern society what with all the equality this and that and feminist movements. So, people are rightfully pointing these things out because they are true.

Still doesn’t make Bea any less of a hypocrit for ripping on young people for not being financially independent while her own child isn’t. This is a generational/ageism thing, not male/female. It’s also a double standard of expectations of other people’s children vs. her own.

Bea is trying to hold things together. Get off her ass.

How tf is she “trying to hold things together,” by mocking and insulting sly? Or by insulting an entire generation of hard working young people who don’t have the same opportunities for prosperity as her generation did with higher wages and lower housing costs & living expenses?

That’s not “trying to hold things together.” Where I come from, that’s what’s called “straight up being a b***h.”

PS. In general I think the way Sly is living is a great idea. Three adults, pooling their finances and credits together to have a place to live. I say in general, because sometimes it sounds like Sly gives more than the others. But Sly is far from being the only on this forum sharing a home. What Bea said applies to many here and to many who aren’t disabled.

Yes times have changed since us older members were young. But I tried to point out earlier it wasn’t all rosey for us either. And as some of you are pointing out, it won’t be when we’re even older.

Perhaps in your part of the world, but not mine. I provide for myself and always have since I was 19. I protect myself and am capable of living without men’s help. My paycheque has always been higher than my husbands. If my husband left, we would split our belongings fifty fifty and financially take care of ourselves. Including taking our government handout old age pensions.

Bea’s initial premise was not about self-financed independence. It was isn't it hard dating while living in your parents home. I suspect dating was a euphemism for having sex while your parents and siblings listened. And wide generalizations are unrealistic.

^Truth.

Like I said earlier, I rent from my parents and we share the house. I live in a different economic reality than sly, and while for different economic reasons than sly, this is also my best bet at the moment.

And also like I shared earlier, I fully get that previous generations had hardships. My grandmother’s generation had the Great Depression & world wars. My father’s childhood home was 2 rooms and the front one froze over in the winter time. Our challenges are different today, but straight up by the numbers young people have a MUCH tougher go of things financially than our parents did - simple fact - and Bea is overlooking it to support her narrative that dependent young people are “losers.”