Would you date someone who was openly bisexual?

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26 Dec 2018, 5:26 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I’m not precluding myself from loving a bisexual person. There’s nothing wrong with it.

All I’m saying is that there’s the chance that a bisexual lady might not desire me—but instead desire another women and lose interest in me.

It’s just an irrational fear.


Not to raise your fear, it's the case with me through my cycle that some weeks I want men (always pretty boys, usually actual young men rather than older men who physically look quite male) and some weeks I want women. But I've heard that straight women want different types of men through their cycle too.
At fertile times, they want men with strong male features. Things like jaw bones etc. At less fertile times, they want more androgynous looking men, of what we call nowadays the 'pretty boy type'. You can't have a square face and a rounded face any more than you can have a penis and a vagina. (I like the biological realism here by the way, it was lacking on the forum I was on before where it was all about 'sometimes people want femininity sometimes people want masculinity' those things are chosen behaviours which are stereotyped to one sex or the other and being a tough guy sometimes and a nice guy another isn't impossible).
If I was in a relationship, I wouldn't cheat, though. Maybe an NT woman would. I wouldn't have the social ability to, for a start. And unless it's something discussed beforehand (an open relationship, ideally with both partners allowed to sleep only with someone the other partner can gage the attractiveness levels of), it's wrong. This is where things like fantasies come in and just leaving her alone for a few weeks. In a long term relationship, that would be balanced out by the week when she was really passionate for you, sexually. It would also be balanced out by the fact she'd still be in love with you regardless so sometimes it would be nice to go out for a meal (if she's NT/or do something nice together like your specialist interests which you share, if she's aspie) rather than spending a night in bed.
I think the reason why FFM is more common than MMF is that in our society, men are better able to convince women they want to have sex with two of them than women are able to convince men. It comes out of the straight bloke's desire/convincing. I don't even think a lot of these women are actually bi, they just think their men would like it.



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26 Dec 2018, 6:07 am

^My girlfriend has the hots (ie. horny) for me during her period, during non-period, all the month round, and I don't shape-change during the month, so what do you call that?

Frankly, this fluctuation theory is just an excuse for women who don't find their men attractive to cheat with more manly men, if there's love and she finds you attractive then she will always be so all month around, no cyclic ups and downs like that.



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26 Dec 2018, 8:12 am

I feel like I’m a masculine man who looks sort of “pretty-boyish”—but not effeminate.

As I’ve aged, I’ve become less “pretty-boyish and look more like a “dad” type. A man who doesn’t work out, but looks okay

I would hope that I could compensate by being being assertive (not aggressive) sexually, which comes naturally to me. I like being flirtatious and telling women I dig them. I would seek to be a gentleman about conveying my desire to my lover.

I have to accept that I’m not a beefcake.



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26 Dec 2018, 8:39 am

Would you date someone who was openly bisexual?
Sure; why not? I have had several bisexual lovers in the past, and have very good memories of our time together.
One caveat; it is unreasonable and unrealistic to expect monogamy from them, as they have legitimate and compelling needs which you cannot fulfil.



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26 Dec 2018, 9:48 am

TUF wrote:
Not to raise your fear, it's the case with me through my cycle that some weeks I want men (always pretty boys, usually actual young men rather than older men who physically look quite male) and some weeks I want women. But I've heard that straight women want different types of men through their cycle too.


This correlates with some Transwomen finding their sex preferences changing when they take female hormones. Giving a Transwomen female hormones typically makes their anxiety go away. Interestingly, those on the autism spectrum often have issues with anxiety. CDs have an anxiety that goes away when they crossdress.

A misconception is that crossdressers are gay. Most are only into women. Perhaps a CD would be a good choice for a bi female. CDs are usually quite successful in their jobs and can afford to buy stuff they don't need.

That said, sex and gender are usually separate spectrums. As is fidelity to one's partner.

Fidelity is a hard one to sort out, as I think that someone who is bi is more willing to admit that they would consider the possibility of infidelity. But, someone who has considered it and concluded no is likely to be a much better choice than someone who is "straight" because they never considered their options because the topic as "taboo."



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26 Dec 2018, 10:12 am

BTDT wrote:
TUF wrote:
Not to raise your fear, it's the case with me through my cycle that some weeks I want men (always pretty boys, usually actual young men rather than older men who physically look quite male) and some weeks I want women. But I've heard that straight women want different types of men through their cycle too.


Fidelity is a hard one to sort out, as I think that someone who is bi is more willing to admit that they would consider the possibility of infidelity. But, someone who has considered it and concluded no is likely to be a much better choice than someone who is "straight" because they never considered their options because the topic as "taboo."


Unless someone is one-person-sexual (which is more of a fantasy than something which really happens) or very sheltered, there's the possibility they'll cheat. The thing is not to be controlling about it and to trust one's partner. And to be honest that partner won't always match your standards, either. There'll always be someone hotter or someone nicer. Love is about not caring and being faithful anyway or having an open conversation leading perhaps to an open relationship.



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26 Dec 2018, 7:16 pm

I agree with TUF. Some of us have startlingly different sexual lives despite being good friends, I've been there, still am & it's just the way things go.

If I hadn't opened my mind to this I would be alone 24/7/365. I no longer pay any mind to who's dating who, I just show love to whom I need to.


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26 Dec 2018, 8:56 pm

ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
Heterosexual men will date a bi woman.
Lesbians will date a bi woman.

Heterosexual women will NOT date a bi man.


These are just not universally true. I am a heterosexual woman and I would date a bisexual man. I actually suspect that at least one of my exes was bi (but closeted), but if he had been out I don't think it would have changed our relationship that much--it didn't work out ultimately, but that's because we just weren't very compatible personality-wise. Why do you think you can speak to what all heterosexual women do or don't want? If you're not one, please don't speak for me. That's not cool.



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26 Dec 2018, 9:20 pm

I have, and would consider it again.


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27 Dec 2018, 5:54 pm

I dont understand why it would matter? Why would their sexual orientation have anything to do with how much you love a person? If you loved everything about them and they loved you back, why would the fact that they are attracted to both sexes make or break the decision to date them? Bisexual people are no different than straight people other than they like both males and females. And if we really want to have true gay rights, than all the labelling and judging is not helping. Why cant people just be people-not gay or lesbian or bi or straight-and be allowed to love whoever they happen to fall in love with no matter the sex or anything? I mean, honestly you should be honored because they chose you out of an even bigger competition pool than normal :mrgreen:


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27 Dec 2018, 6:14 pm

Because Aspies are really not that different from "normal people." They automatically make assumptions, rather than being open minded and spending the time to learn about someone who is "different."



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27 Dec 2018, 6:38 pm

graceksjp wrote:
I dont understand why it would matter? Why would their sexual orientation have anything to do with how much you love a person? If you loved everything about them and they loved you back, why would the fact that they are attracted to both sexes make or break the decision to date them? Bisexual people are no different than straight people other than they like both males and females. And if we really want to have true gay rights, than all the labelling and judging is not helping. Why cant people just be people-not gay or lesbian or bi or straight-and be allowed to love whoever they happen to fall in love with no matter the sex or anything? I mean, honestly you should be honored because they chose you out of an even bigger competition pool than normal :mrgreen:


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16 Jan 2019, 10:40 am

https://www.bustle.com/p/myths-about-bi ... t-15565553

All these things people have said about me are essentially the same old myths about bisexuality that are just plain wrong, like bisexual people are more likely to cheat, they can't be monogamous, and that bisexual people are promiscuous. Yes, those are real misconceptions about bisexuality, and they're super hurtful.



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16 Jan 2019, 10:51 am

Yes, I've done it before. As long as they're into you, why worry?



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18 Jan 2019, 12:41 am

I would, it sounds like fun to me