How to detect Narcissists (common partner for AS/Asperger's)

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24 Jul 2012, 3:06 pm

I think people should stick to judging what they know about. If they don't know what NPD is then surely they wouldn't know which traits are common amongst most or all people and abundant in HPD or NPD.



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24 Jul 2012, 3:12 pm

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As someone with BPD, I really find this offensive.

I am sick of the myths, people making out we are liars and manipulators. We are NOTHING like NPD. We HATE ourselves. You try and find someone with BPD who even likes just their personality, because you won't. We hate our looks and our personality. We do not use people and we do not treat people like people with NPD do.

All we are is innocent emotional people who have been abused all our life, and we have only been taught to scream when we're upset.

We have FEAR OF ABANDONMENT, because all we have ever experienced in life, is people abandoning us.

Anyone who commented on BPD being the same as NPD, you clearly have NO experience with someone with BPD, or even NPD. We are NOTHING alike.
We are actually more likely to hook up with someone with NPD, because we are so used to abuse we just accept it. We also like to fawn over the other person, so them fawning over themselves is just an addition and makes it easier to love and praise the other person.

I think BPD bashers have more narcissistic traits than BPD's themselves. But then again, everyone loves to bash something, it's in our genes.



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24 Jul 2012, 3:35 pm

ok, before we go any further we need someone to make a list of all these damn acronyms and post it for the ones that dont go around playing Dr House with everyone we know



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24 Jul 2012, 3:37 pm

I see little difference between a Narcissist and a Sociopath... similar in many regards - both dangerous and repulsively evil.



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24 Jul 2012, 3:40 pm

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I see little difference between a Narcissist and a Sociopath... similar in many regards - both dangerous and repulsively evil.

Yeah but, antisocial disorder is the most dangerous disorder a person can have, way worse than narcissism for example.



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24 Jul 2012, 4:19 pm

Has anyone in or that has been in a relationship with someone with NPD ever had this experience?

He always waited to find out what I wanted for my birthday or holiday and then made sure you don't get it. For instance cuddling one Christmas at the end of the day and spending your birthday talking to his ex when you wanted him to hang while you cooked dinner (the last straw...). Then you break up with them, they guilt trouble you into calling saying they are homeless and jobless now (which you find out isn't true when you call back) and then ignore all you say and literally beg specifically for you to "say something nice to me" and give them praise.

Anything similar ever happen to anyone? Is it normal for them to straight.up ask for the supply when they have been deprived of it for a couple of weeks?



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24 Jul 2012, 4:22 pm

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I see little difference between a Narcissist and a Sociopath... similar in many regards - both dangerous and repulsively evil.


most cant tell the difference between sociopath and psychopath. Let alone narcisisst. It all has to do with how they percieve and produce themselves. Each type does it by different ways. Yet they all use the same building blocks. Kinda like legos, except for personality



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25 Jul 2012, 1:16 am

I highly doubt NDP, and BDP are related, since BPD to my knowdlge hate themselves, and feel empty I have a friend who could be borderline, and I know people who can be considered NPD, my mom thinks I am narcissistic but if she saw the way I talk about myself on here, she would blush.



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25 Jul 2012, 2:19 am

That's it right there.

That's my ex. This has signs that go back even further than I realized! I'm keeping this--and I hope they do make it a sticky.



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25 Jul 2012, 9:48 am

He keeps calling and threatening suicide and I think his family is abandoning him and I've never heard him cry like that. It's probably all a lie but I'm scared he might. And this happens everytime I try to break away. He never has before. I just need to realize it's a scam like everything....

My phone restarted this morning and my call blocker wasn't running and he left a message to,"help me, help me, help me". I feel callous and cold and worried and panicky at the same time. Do I call the police? What do I do? I'm not going back.



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25 Jul 2012, 10:05 am

jdanaya wrote:
I highly doubt NDP, and BDP are related, since BPD to my knowdlge hate themselves, and feel empty I have a friend who could be borderline, and I know people who can be considered NPD, my mom thinks I am narcissistic but if she saw the way I talk about myself on here, she would blush.


No, "narcissicism", as it's colloquially thrown around, is much different than NPD. People with true NPD, not just "full of themselves and self-centered" also loathe themselves and have no central, identifying, protected self-core, which is why they must always try to fill their unfillable need. Their need is *never* sated, which is why they're such completely toxic people. It comes from childhood emotional abuse and neglect so profound that this is the only way they can function as adults.

It's hard to describe, but you know when you see it in action (or have lived next to it).



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25 Jul 2012, 1:46 pm

The part I hate the worst is the few friends I was able to make I never talked to or was forced to not talk to them and now I have no support system and I'm talking to myself on a forum room. When you want to remember why not to get with him just look at how crazy you seem right now. And I'm embarrassed to call them because I've been a s**t friend who stops talking to them as soon as it threatens him. It's going to get better. I'm going to be able to look at this in a few months and laugh at myself.



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25 Jul 2012, 2:10 pm

This thread has such an informative, well thought out first post that I'm actually going to take time to fully process it before saying anything.



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25 Jul 2012, 4:55 pm

jdanaya wrote:
I highly doubt NDP, and BDP are related, since BPD to my knowdlge hate themselves, and feel empty I have a friend who could be borderline, and I know people who can be considered NPD, my mom thinks I am narcissistic but if she saw the way I talk about myself on here, she would blush.


Thank-you! Someone here actually knows what BPD is!



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25 Jul 2012, 5:06 pm

Some of this sounds sadly familiar with a few people I have met.

A family member and a neighbour comes to mind.

I tend to ignore it now, as I know when feelings are fake.


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25 Jul 2012, 7:16 pm

8O

Most of those describe my first husband. I certainly knew there was something wrong with him, and learned for myself that he was a dangerous person (I probably haven't said five sentences to him since I left seven years ago - best decision I ever made) but I didn't know what it was. Too bad he still successfully manipulates most of the people around him.