To all Aspie men who are angry with women.

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01 Sep 2007, 8:41 am

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Women suck


Yes. Men seem to enjoy it when we do.


LOL funniest thing I've read all day thus far. :D


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01 Sep 2007, 9:15 am

tbh, i've reached a point in my life where i'm non-sexual. i know the best time of my life was when i was in heaven with a truly beautiful angelic young woman. problem was that i spent soooooooo long prior to that researching on "how to get women", and now with other life commitments i've realised that there's no point spending valuable energy trying to "get women". they can have their hunks of meat. i missed that train and that's cool. it just sucks now when i see women that expect me to approach them. the funniest part is when they call me a poof (a trick that so many slags use these daysl probably as some form of "empowerment" (what a sh*tty word)). hah, that's one more debit for them in my big black book. it's sad, and it's probably bad for my mind, because every now and again (altho it seems rare to find) i'll see a woman who i'll see as someone i truly want to be with, and i know if i don't "get her", some meathead a***hole probably will. but i've given up. and i've never felt better in my adolescent & adult life.

/me np: Bob Dylan - Don't Think Twice, It's Alright



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01 Sep 2007, 9:16 am

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Whenever any of you makes the claim that all girls/women are like this, or that, you are utterly wrong.

The way that women treat you is more a reflection on yourself than on the gender itself; just as the way that men treat me says more about me than the male gender.

Sorry guys; it's not them; it's you.


Well, the most recent incident of this nature ended badly because the girl I liked - and still do like, much to my annoyance and chagrin (who is not supermodel gorgeous, by the way, but a fairly everyday kind of pretty) - told me she'd recently come to the conclusion that she was a lesbian because she'd been feeling funny in her underpants about another girl.

That's hardly my fault, is it? It's just indicative of my uncanny (and incredibly irritating and self-destructive) ability to apparently find only girls with boyfriends, husbands or girlfriends attractive...


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01 Sep 2007, 10:14 am

Love sucks. True love swallows.



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01 Sep 2007, 3:05 pm

Look, I'm not saying that it is your fault that you are rejected by women; I never meant to imply that. You can't help being the way you are.

What I am asking you to do is to understand that the women who reject you can't help being the way they are either.

They can't change the fact that they just don't want to be with you, and it is pointless to hold grudges against them for doing so.

And it is bad for you. If you go around calling women b*****s, how can you ever expect to find happiness with one?

Just let it all go. Forget all the hurt you have ever experienced; forgive them, forgive yourselves, and move on.



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01 Sep 2007, 3:15 pm

Fair is fair, Aridarr. If they can't help the way that they are, then I can't help the way that I am.

So they can't have any part of me.



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01 Sep 2007, 3:20 pm

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If they can't help the way that they are, then I can't help the way that I am.



If you take the time to read my entire last post, you will see that I fully agree with you on that point.



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01 Sep 2007, 4:28 pm

lol this has become somewhat muddled... people have been thinking you've been implying very different things at points - and I'm one of them. XD What's going on here? lol


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01 Sep 2007, 5:11 pm

poor girl



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01 Sep 2007, 5:25 pm

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All men ARE perverts though. :P


(Women just hide it better. ...But that strange buzzing sound usually gives them away.)



Oh no, I meant more serious stuff.

But, the GOOD women are. :P



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01 Sep 2007, 5:27 pm

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Now that I think about it, I've never really been "rejected" because I've never asked anyone out before. I don't really know if I can.


From my experience, it ain't worth it.
I asked a couple, and got one date. The
date sucked. She ended up with someone
else. I let them approach, now.



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01 Sep 2007, 7:06 pm

samtoo wrote:
lol this has become somewhat muddled... people have been thinking you've been implying very different things at points - and I'm one of them. XD What's going on here? lol


I have made several different points; just read my posts carefully and you should understand. It is also worth noting that my approach has altered slightly throughout the course of the thread.

Don't worry, I'll be patient. :)

The main problem here is that many of you are misinterpreting my intent: My intention is not, and never has been to make Aspie men feel bad about themselves.

All I am doing is trying to snap some of you (those of you who are angry with women) out of a delusion; a delusion that causes you to feel that all women are maliciously working against you.

I am trying to get you to understand that these women are not trying to hurt you; they are just catering to their own needs, as all people have a right to.

Don't get me wrong; you are entirely justified in feeling hurt when such a thing happens, and angry. But it is best not to allow such experiences to become resentment against an entire gender.



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01 Sep 2007, 7:45 pm

My dad always says about women: "If women didn't have a p-ssy, there would be a bounty on them!"

:x



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01 Sep 2007, 7:52 pm

Eh, I'm not upset that we taught them to
read or drive, but we never should have
taught them to speak. :P



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01 Sep 2007, 8:09 pm

Jimbogf wrote:
My dad always says about women: "If women didn't have a p-ssy, there would be a bounty on them!"

:x


Your mom must really enjoy hearing that.



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01 Sep 2007, 10:01 pm

Aridarr wrote:
Whenever any of you makes the claim that all girls/women are like this, or that, you are utterly wrong.

The way that women treat you is more a reflection on yourself than on the gender itself; just as the way that men treat me says more about me than the male gender.

Sorry guys; it's not them; it's you.

Think about it; if you met an overweight, unattractive girl, you would treat her badly in comparison to a beautiful supermodel type.

These women are doing the same as you would in that situation.

If a woman rejects you, it isn't because women are unfair; it is because you don't make her happy.

That is what love is about; being with someone who makes you happy. Neither women nor men have control over who makes them happy. If someone rejects you, they are not being judgemental, or bigoted. They are just obeying their emotional reaction to you as a person. Why should anyone tolerate a romantic partner who doesn't make them happy?

That is why aspies have so much trouble in romance; they don't understand what it is that makes others happy as well as other people do.

And if a woman is unkind in her rejection of you; it could be because she has her own life and set of priorities that don't include you.

Just as you may have all the time in the world for one girl and ignore another; they are the same.

People (meaning women and men), especially in romance, tend towards behaviour that causes emotional distress to others. This doesn't mean that they are bad people, or playing games with your emotions; in most situations, they are probably just confused.

As people, none of you are socially perfect; many of you upset people without meaning to.

So-called 'neurotypicals' are no different; they make mistakes too.


Although you made a lot of sense with all this, most of this advice belongs with NT dating.

Aspie males who get frustrated with dating aren't just being ignorant a**holes, they're trying to struggle through a completely different neurological wiring and have no idea how to do it.

The fact that people like yourself think that they're being strange or ignorant just makes it worse, because there's no attempt at understanding being made and we're just being told we're "not doing it right" when every iota of effort we have is going towards trying to do everything right!

It's cyclical.

And just for the record, I've made many girls happy in my time and although I'm still looking for the one who will last, I know that I get better at it each time and will one day find someone who will not only appreciate all the effort I put into her, but understand that I'm doing my very best, even if I don't always get it right.

Nice of you to assume we're all overweight, bald losers too.


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