Why is it girls have an easier time getting dates than guys?

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05 Mar 2016, 4:18 pm

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The thing is androbot01, I don't think you're that experienced in (real) relationships.

Depends how we're defining "real." If you mean successful, then you're right.

But so be it. I'm not going to start whining about how I want to find "Mr. Right." It's a waste of time.

You have to be responsible for yourself, you can't depend on others for happiness.

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05 Mar 2016, 4:21 pm

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I just don't understand the judgement most of the world has towards depression.

It sucks, but it's a fact of life. Depression spreads and when you're suffering from it, it doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, people are affected negatively and will likely avoid you.

No it doesn't spread. People might react negatively, but it isn't contagious. These people who complain about other people "making them depressed" are simply selfish people who have never experienced true depression. Lucky them.

They are lucky, but it is difficult to be around a person who's depressed. You can't help but be effected by it. Negativity spreads the same way positive feelings do. I don't think it is selfish to not want to be brought down by someone else.

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05 Mar 2016, 4:23 pm

They may not remain depressed.

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05 Mar 2016, 4:25 pm

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They may not remain depressed.

They will if they are clinically depressed. The euphoria of falling in love may help for a little while, but that'll wear off in a few months and the symptoms will come back.

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Yeah, that would require that everyone realize you're "only joking" and not serious about words that taken at face value are clear misogynistic denigration of women in general and women on this forum in particular.

A misogynistic joke? The facebook joke is misogynistic for you?

It just shows how much more attention girls receive on fb vs guys, nothing misogynistic about that, it's a reality (except exceptions).
Misogynistic means something anti-female, hate against females, there's no hate message in that, just humor and pointing to something (based on a real generalization).

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05 Mar 2016, 4:27 pm

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I just don't understand the judgement most of the world has towards depression.

It sucks, but it's a fact of life. Depression spreads and when you're suffering from it, it doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, people are affected negatively and will likely avoid you.

You know what? f**k those people. It's not my problem. It's theirs for being so shallow. Isn't this attitude ironic. I'm "loving myself" like everyone says to do. Can you see it? I don't give a f**k that I'm not always happy. If people have a problem with it then f**k them. Hahaha! See, I have a positive attitude about my depression. I've tried every kind of medication out there and there is no magical cure, so this is what I'm left at. f**k most people. I'm okay with myself. I'm human. I'm worthy of love. I'm not going to kick myself in the teeth repeatedly just because others want me too.

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05 Mar 2016, 4:30 pm

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They may not remain depressed.

They will if they are clinically depressed. The euphoria of falling in love may help for a little while, but that'll wear off in a few months and the symptoms will come back.

It's not always the case, depression varies greatly from one person to another.

It is not like an incurable virus you catch.

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05 Mar 2016, 4:33 pm

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I just don't understand the judgement most of the world has towards depression.

It sucks, but it's a fact of life. Depression spreads and when you're suffering from it, it doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, people are affected negatively and will likely avoid you.

Complaining that someone with a flesh wound causes you a paper cut is selfish. I'm sorry. Or are you saying I should just f*****g blow my brains out?

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05 Mar 2016, 4:35 pm

It's also weird, because I seem to get along with depressed people just fine. They don't really "bring me down". They are usually more kind than average as well. I think it's because they understand suffering. They don't have the same arrogance that a lot of non-depressed people have.

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05 Mar 2016, 4:38 pm

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Complaining that someone with a flesh wound causes you a paper cut is selfish. I'm sorry. Or are you saying I should just f*****g blow my brains out?

I'm not sure how you got to the last part, but no, I don't think you should shoot yourself.

People are not obliged to take on another's pain. Sometimes they do, but you can't expect it.

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I've tried every kind of medication out there and there is no magical cure, ...

No there isn't. The antidepressants I take keep me from harming myself, but they don't make me happy. I don't think I'll ever be happy, but I will take not being sad. I don't even bother to think of romance anymore because I know I'm not someone who has much to offer someone else.
But if antidepressants don't offer you anything, have you considered electroshock therapy? I've heard that it helps people who aren't helped by anything else. (And it's not like "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" anymore.)

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05 Mar 2016, 4:43 pm

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Complaining that someone with a flesh wound causes you a paper cut is selfish. I'm sorry. Or are you saying I should just f*****g blow my brains out?

I'm not sure how you got to the last part, but no, I don't think you should shoot yourself.

You seem to believe that a depressed person is unworthy of love. They are suffering already, but they deserve to be punished more for it. What exactly did they do wrong, other than being born?

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People are not obliged to take on another's pain. Sometimes they do, but you can't expect it.

But they also can't expect me not to think negatively of them.

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05 Mar 2016, 4:46 pm

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They may not remain depressed.

They will if they are clinically depressed. The euphoria of falling in love may help for a little while, but that'll wear off in a few months and the symptoms will come back.

It's not always the case, depression varies greatly from one person to another.

It is not like an incurable virus you catch.

Yea. I think a lot of people are in denial that the modern corporate isolationism is a major cause of depression. We are all reduced to these atomic economic units. Instead of working together, we all have to compete for jobs that keep us alive but mostly don't bring us any joy or satisfaction.

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05 Mar 2016, 4:47 pm

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Jealousy--in this case jealousy against women because they supposedly have an easier time getting dates, or a statistically greater likelihood of their dating site profiles getting hits--is akin to hatred.

Teasing and criticism aren't always humorous to the person against whom they are directed, or to every person in the group against whom they are directed. Some people are better able to laugh at themselves than others. Some people are better at discerning whether others are teasing and joking or seriously criticizing or bullying. Some people get trashed and criticized and humiliated and browbeaten so much in real life that it becomes impossible to recognize similar words and concepts on the internet as anything but additional cr@ploads of hate being piled upon them.

All I'm saying is that just because in your mind you're only joking, you should not assume that everyone who reads your posts is aware you're only joking. Yeah, I know standard response to this (because I get it all the time, too, if I let the slightest sign of

show on my face in response to the criticism and humiliation) is: don't be so sensitive, it's pathetic.

Marshall, don't let the haters get you down. It's entirely true that there is an unfair stigma against depression. The people who try to require you to be happy or pretend to be happy in their presence so you don't rain on their selfish little parades are just that: selfish. They have no right to require you to prop up their happy little positive mental attitudes.

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05 Mar 2016, 4:48 pm

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You seem to believe that a depressed person is unworthy of love. They are suffering already, but they deserve to be punished more for it. What exactly did they do wrong, other than being born?

I'm not sure anyone is "worthy of love." Love just happens sometimes. There is no right to be loved. Being depressed makes it hard for people to successfully partner with you. It's not because being depressed is wrong, it's just makes a person less desirable.

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05 Mar 2016, 4:56 pm

LyraLuthTinu, I don't want to get into an argument with you on that nor I would try to justify myself, let's skip this.

androbot,

Someone who's depressed because of unemployment, would stop being depressed after finding a dream job.

Someone who's depressed because of lack of company, would stop being depressed after finding a significant other.

Someone who's depressed because of X and Y, would remain depressed even after finding a significant other.

There are so many causes of depression.

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05 Mar 2016, 5:02 pm

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Marshall, don't let the haters get you down. It's entirely true that there is an unfair stigma against depression. The people who try to require you to be happy or pretend to be happy in their presence so you don't rain on their selfish little parades are just that: selfish. They have no right to require you to prop up their happy little positive mental attitudes.

This is why I think dogs are better than people. They are happy to see you no matter what. It doesn't matter what mood you're in, they are happy to see you. They're also incapable of non-genuine happiness. You see their happiness, you know it is real, and it makes you happy. This is not so with the forced "polite" happiness of the typical workplace. There you are simply coerced into never showing any negative emotion.

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