Encountered a pair of Pick-Up Artists last night.

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Does Leafplant really claim that? Let's take this to the European court of human rights and debate it there.

Your insistence of twisting the words of everyone around to suit your point is quite despicable.

Leafplant made her point - which was to say that it is impossible to be sure what the situation and feelings and intents of people were based on an observation of third party given in a short paragraph on the internet.

In Shau's story there were at least three women. Which one are you referring to?

I have actually understood that concept as young as when I was 16. Most people can go through a moment of weakness. I don't know how to explain this without disclosing parts of my past I'm not proud of so I'll just go ahead: I remember I arranged for my best friend, who was an accomplished pua back then, to hit on my girlfriend, after finding out she still thought about him significantly more than she did about me. I understood how powerful these techniques could be though, especially in his hands, so I figured that if the two of them kissed it wouldn't prove anything as it would be just a moment of weakness, and I figured that anyone can have those. So my hypothesis condition was not whether they would kiss or not, which I took as a given, but whether she'd break up with me, which would prove non-repentance, rational thought, and planning future actions.

For that reason I'm not harsh on the wife. She was swept by the moment, and then she regretted what had happened while being dumbfounded at the reason she acted like that. Personally I would prefer dating women who are more in control of themselves, more willing to break social expectations and more assertive on doing what they want and avoiding what they don't, and such a woman would be very unlikely to go through a moment of weakness (and if it happened I'd consider break up not because of cheating but because of what it says of her as a person) but if she truly regretted it I'd stay with her, provided it didn't happen again. Women exist who like having short trysts with other men for fun. Women exist who would hold a long, involved affair in parallel. Those can't be explained by "spur of the moment", and would be actually very serious.

Eh, it is not necessarily applauding, turning a blind eye is enough. And girls are not around with their parents all the time. By the way, Steubenville and Maryville, among other places, are more extreme examples of what a culture might accept as permissible or not and the effect it can have in whole populations, within American culture. Not everywhere is like that, but it shows pressure does exist of acting a certain way, and people who stray from that are socially punished, sometimes very harshly. I'm not a woman living in an Anglo culture, and neither are you, but we have several posters who are one, and if they attest that such a pressure exists I have no reason to doubt their word

^ are you sure you are only 20 years old?

Damn.

Lol, what's that supposed to mean

It means: it's wine o'clock

Um. Just that you seem extremely well reasoned for someone so young. Although, perhaps I do you disservice, as I hang out with very young men at work all the time and they too surprise me by being much more sensible and logical when it comes to assessing human behaviour, perhaps because they haven't been made cynical by life yet.

Boo. It's a double-double standard essentially.

Slut is a word to shame women who sleep with men.

Friendzone is a word to shame women who don't.

Women have a choice in western society, be a slut or be a fridged b***h. Add in cultural differences (like in the scenerio Shau described) and it gets even more complicated. I'm in no way exhonerating the girls 100% (they showed poor judgement) but putting all the blame on them for this (as you and a few others seem want to do) is extreamly narrow minded.

It's clear these men were exhibiting predatory behavior. That's the nature of the whole PUA movement. So rape can and should be considered a real concern with these type of guys. These types often react poorly (even violently) to rejection which is another thing that could have been on these girl's minds. Shau should consider himself super proud not to count himself amongst such sociopaths. For all the whining I hear from the MRA/PUA crowd about "manipulative b*****s," when they do the same thing (just as if not more maliciously) it's celebrated.

Is this another double standard or is "Boys will be boys" an excuse for everything now? I prefer to have a higher opinion of men then that..........

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ha!

I have fixed the kitchen tap like a boss and therefore deserve all the wine and chocolates I have bought myself and which I am consuming without any guilt as I am blissfully not required to maintain my figure for anyone else's gratification.

It Is The Weekend! Woop!

Well, thanks I'll be 21 in three months though

But you are not drinking the whole bottle of wine by yourself are you?
If you do remember to let us know: http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts190523-start765.html

define drunk?

So, in three months( *counts on fingers*) you will be Exactly half my age. I am not OK with this. Not at all.

So I was interpretting it correctly then.........

He thinks a girl not letting a guy f**k her because she's not interested him is equal to a guy who is only nice to pretty girls.

I guess I was just dumbfounded by how sexist and stupid the argument was that I assumed I misinterpretted. Boo, Please PLEASE tell me you don't believe that nonsense. You're way smarter than that........

Anything tipsy and above, lightheaded and as if time passed a little faster.

And I've been told it is unpolite to interrogate other people, but curiosity is my bane What about my age?

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Oh I am sorry, this is what happens when you get old - people being young starts to seem like a personal affront. You should just ignore me and go back to what you were doing before.

Think about math formulas of the amount of years it takes for someone to be twice the age of someone else it is then!
My parents are 43, and they still look young to me though~

in 5 months I will be your parents age. It would be waay cool to have a kid like you right now, but there is no way I could have brought one up had I had one back then. Can I adopt you instead?