Would You Date Me?

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Nope.

Still, it depends on other things as well, including the individual, but you are probably pretty right. I live in the country, and have lived in the city most of my life. Public transport where I live is inconvenient, so I feel I need a car, personally, to get around. But I'd prefer if I didn't, for environmental reasons. And my partner? I don't care. Yes, it's more convenient that he drives, but it wouldn't have made a difference as to whether I'd date him. I started dating him before I knew if he had a car. I've dated people who didn't and I've picked them up from the train station an hour away.

Now, to the city. A lot of people in my city are environmentally conscious. The CBD electorate has the Greens party in power, and our state Premier is big on public transport to reduce traffic congestion. So people who ride bicycles and/or catch PT are thought of positively by many males and females.

So in my lil state in Australia at least, I believe there are plenty of women who'd happily date a guy without a car, or even prefer it. In the country it may be trickier to find us cos there's the convenience factor of wanting the guy to be able to visit, and fewer people care so much about the planet (judging by who they vote in at election time).

"Would these women really want to miss out on the chance of being happy with someone just for the sake of a car though?"
This is the part where I harp on about "and would you want to date such a woman?". Personally I'd rather be single than with someone who placed such importance on stupid things.

Car is status and they’ve been Tricked into thinking you need status to be happy, thst only middle class people can be happy.

No. You've got a knob and balls.

First no I wouldn’t and don’t. I’ve said it to you one time on one subject how’s that no matter what you say ? I disagree I don’t think there’s any situation while the primary reason to date someone is their money or beauty is ok. It’s ok if if it’s a minor reason. Lik man her personality is great we get along good and she beautiful, or same for men
But if th sole an only reason you won’t date a woman is cause she’s not a model pretty or not thin enoug, or if s man doesn’t make enough or if thsts th very first think you consider then you don’t love thst person, you love their status or looks and when those fade or go away so will your love for them. Skin deep love doesn’t last and it isn’t real love. Just ask those old women who got dumped for younger women if they feel they had real,love from their ex. Ask the men whose wife leave them when they lost their job if they feel ththey y had real love.

Women don’t see me as an individual why aren’t yo scolding such women? T be double clear I see women as individuals who share common ideas I don’t think women are copies of each other with identical personalities and interests who can just be swapped for another woman. But again most women went crazy for 50 shades of gray which again dispels your they are 100% individual idea. I’m likewise not a total individual no one is. I like a lot of stuff billions of other men also like. I’m one of 50 million men who like guns, I’m one of billions over the world who like the same coin. It’s why things are mass produced because humans aren’t total individuals.

I respect you I like you kindsa, we just won’t agree on this you take women’s side cause you’re woman so yo empthas with women. I’m male I emphasiz more with men. I’ve struggled I’ve seen millions other men struggle. I also see women struggle and how it’s wrong to solely date or not date a woman based on her looks.

If humans were truly independent we wouldn’t have cities, States or nations. Celebrities wouldn’t exist, they exist cause most people tpfind them good looking, meaning most people don’t think independently. Does that mean women or most people are hive mind no. It just means they all have common beliefs. Most women won’t date men who don’t have good job and car. Society exists cause there are things that nearly everyone agreees on. Not everyone but most everyone. I dont know how anyone can not see that. Most men would agree thin women are more attractive. Doesn’t mean there’s a male hive mind. I dont think anyone even disputes that but when we say most women don’t fine lowmpaid men attractive or dateable womennfreak our wndnclaim we saying there s female hivemind andnthat every single woman things independent and different.maorry there isnt 3.5 billion possible ideas for every woman to think independently andnnot be effected by society and what the majority think
Women can either fallow society, be deemed normal and be accepted or not follow and be deemed weird and rejected, most women and most men follow society they want to be part of the in crowd. So yeah they might have individualaliaty when it comes to music, shows, hobbies, fashion etc. even then lots of women will like th same music, same show, same fasion( new fashion comes out and most women run out t get it.) mass marketing works because most the mass wants it. If everyone was truely 100% individual mass marketing wouldn’t work. The iPhone would be a failure as 1 person and only in person would want it.
Half the population walks around with the newest iPhone. Half the the population 120million people have the same taste in phone,hows thst independent?
How do you suggest I find such women who don’t ? They clearly aren’t on dating sites or Facebook or twitter. So if they hiding in their home avoiding people how do I find them? They need to put themselves out there. I could just hid in my home avoid people, I don’t i put myself out there on dating sites. I post ads on Craigslist. My sister says she dOnes that care about such things but she won’t meet people or use dating sites. How’s that helpful for her or men like me.
So I’ll likely nevber meet such women even if any of them exist who are single. Most are in relationships as it’s ewsy fir a woman to find a guy with low paid job or no job there’s tons of us.

Strongly agree.

Unfortunately, doing what makes some of us happy doesn't make us more attractive or desirable dating wise, and can in some cases have the exact opposite effect.

That's one of the biggest questions plaguing my life, be what I want to be and be happy but possibly turn out unhappy years down the line, or be what society wants me to be and be what I need to be to be attractive to the opposite sex and possibly feel worse years down the line.

If someone tells me "it's both" I'm just gonna say "easier said than done"

Worse so if you don’t know what you want to be.
Which is double worse for attracting opposite sex. Being stationary in life isn’t seen as acceptable. I’ll likely keep this job until they fire me, there’s no moving up to better job. Unlike kraif there won’t be any pension for me.

Humans are not 100% individualistic, those who believe so, are naive.

Sorry WPers, but many of you are indeed naive.

If Humans were 100% individualistic, then democracy wouldn't work - football couldn't be popular, no song would have liked by billions of viewers on Youtube.

Humans actually have what I call... "cultural hiveminds" - meaning that individuals of humans in a culture have very similar ideas and opinions, and this extends to what they find attractive in the opposite sex.

Sly's example of 50 shades is pretty strong in that account, yes, it wouldn't have been popular in the US if there wasn't some kind of a cultural hivemind there.

I challenge, all female members here (fluffly, yellow...etc) to disapprove this, and if my 'theory' is wrong, then how the hell do you explain my Regional tinder experiment here: viewtopic.php?t=275336

Why 0% of some countries find the same person (me in that experiment) unattractive, while in others I got tons of matches? Explain...hmm? How is that individualistic?

I have no idea what I want to do with my life either, and just thinking about it makes me feel depressed and scared.

I suppose it's normal to feel lost and hopeless when you're young but most people pick a path and follow it.

My parents say "everyone" just "wings it" in life but hey, at least they have the courage to do so.

I dont...yet.

Has anyone here ever suggested humans are 100% individualistic? I certainly don't believe this; it's an absurd claim. The 'normal curve' (or other similar distributions) is alive and well across so many aspects of the human mind and how it thinks.

Winging it is how I got my job. You can do it too. You'll find your courage soon.

So, do you admit that you are partially borg?

Someone else put 'learn to see women as individuals' and because of that you are demanding that I (you listed me first) prove that humans are 100% individual, is that right? Err, no, because I find most people do think along very set lines with limited ability (or willingness) to think for themselves. All people, male and female.

The most common one in dating that I've herd other women say is the importance of height. And as with all generalisations it falls apart in real people because despite saying they would never date someone shorter than them, I know three women who have all ended up happily married to men shorter than them. I don't know how this stuff works, do you realise the irony of there being a site where Aspies explain the behavour of NTs to eachother to other to Aspies.

50 Shades? Out of work, friends, book group, at the time, out of 30 women, 2 picked out clips and were disgusted and 5 read it in full. Out of that five, 3 loved it and the other 2 thought it was ok, overrated,and disappointingly tame .

I don't know if I answered your point, cus I'm not sure what it was. I'm off to have my breakfast

It's you who keeps insisting I'm some sort of exception to the "rules". I'm normal and common and boring in many ways! What I aim to do - in the posts I assume you are thinking of - is highlight that not everyone is the same, but I never suggest that everyone is different. That is an odd and illogical interpretation.

so, would you guys date him or what?

i wouldn't.