Why are people so mean to me and hate me?

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27 Jul 2011, 10:32 am

I am 17 with ASD and a lot of my peers are really mean to me and hate me for some unknown reason. I did nothing wrong but yet I am always given dirty looks by my peers. I was in the 8th grade and this one girl that everyone liked started hating me for some reason. I am a nice and kind person and I don't know why people just hate me for no reason. In my first cooking class group my peers hated me just for no resson. I got a lot of people give me the evil looks and I don't know what I did wrong. I am often a push over and extremely nice and I will never stand up for my self because of my niceness. I also have people be mean to me. I don't think I ever had a friend because people are just so rude to me. I feel lonely at home with nothing to do snd everyone else is having fun but me. I feel like the reason people hate me is because of my aspergers but I'm not sure. I did not do anything wrong but why are people so mean?



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27 Jul 2011, 10:41 am

had the same thing at that age and still have it to an extent now-people sense you are different and an easy target so you get the brunt of it from the so called "cool normal" people,theres a lot to be said for being a nice caring person-NT's seem to have the ability to lie to your face,tell you one thing then do another all while smiling about it and being able to go home and sleep at night and it doesn't bother them in the least-I do not want to have that ability being an aspie and why that is considered a normal desirable trait is beyond me.I know its hard and I have spent a lot of time alone not being included in things and t hurts.I know and understand how you feel.


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27 Jul 2011, 11:41 am

School is a zero sum game, or is perceived as a zero sum game. If you're doing well, it means someone else is not doing well. Please make sure you're not showing off. Maybe even sometimes if a teacher asks you a question and you know the answer, consider saying I don't know. Now, don't take a dive on grades. Too much is at stake. You want to consider a profession where you're appreciated and can make some real money---like medicine, business, law, accounting, engineering, architecture, etc. Don't do what I did, which was stop caring about grades in 11th grade because my Mom was pushing school almost making me a mascot and covering up for problems at home, and also in the back of my mind that I would then be accepted by the "cool kids." Didn't work. (I thought home problems would then be openly faced and talked about. They weren't. Looking back on it years later, I wish I would have talked to my younger sister who was then in 10th grade that we need to start consider moving to our grandparents and hopefully my Mom will follow or at least make a decision. But no way did I have that maturity at the time.)

I've also been helped by thinking in terms of medium steps in social interaction, neither baby steps nor giant steps. This might seem obvious, but it's been a good remedy for my perfectionism and over-'logic'---and just accepting that life has a lot of random flux. So, medium step, observe feedback, another medium step. And I find I often get to a much better place with seven medium steps, for example, then I ever would with one giant, 'perfect' step.

Then of course you know, much more immediately than I do although I can remember, that kids can be mean and stupid for very small reasons or even hardly any reason at all. Maybe read Paul Graham's essay "Why nerds are unpopular." http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html One area where I might disagree with him is that he says that ostracism is not as bad as active persecution. I'm not so sure, ostracism can be pretty damn lousy and hurtful.

And maybe trying out groups, esp in theater, art, politics? Both school and community groups. Keeping in mind that a lot of groups seemingly just don't do that much, so the key is to light-touch a variety of groups.



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27 Jul 2011, 1:01 pm

user1001 wrote:
I am 17 with ASD and a lot of my peers are really mean to me and hate me for some unknown reason. I did nothing wrong but yet I am always given dirty looks by my peers. I was in the 8th grade and this one girl that everyone liked started hating me for some reason. I am a nice and kind person and I don't know why people just hate me for no reason. In my first cooking class group my peers hated me just for no resson. I got a lot of people give me the evil looks and I don't know what I did wrong. I am often a push over and extremely nice and I will never stand up for my self because of my niceness. I also have people be mean to me. I don't think I ever had a friend because people are just so rude to me. I feel lonely at home with nothing to do snd everyone else is having fun but me. I feel like the reason people hate me is because of my aspergers but I'm not sure. I did not do anything wrong but why are people so mean?


Yeah I got that as well.....I guess that is just how people are, I really don't know and it still bothers me a bit even though I am 21 and I don't have to deal with it anymore.



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27 Jul 2011, 1:43 pm

Kids your age are evil petty little demon monkeys.



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27 Jul 2011, 5:25 pm

Teenagers can be so cruel! I`ve been through the same thing! They are probably jealous of u because u r a nice beautiful person!


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28 Jul 2011, 4:39 am

at your age; it's all about percieved status; kids, especially boys, want to reach the top of the social ladder asap, and the fastest way is to step on and over others.
also, they are usually more sensitive to the 'feel' you give off being AS, identifying you as an easy target, someone who doesn't care about his ladder position, nor will fight back, so you will make an excellent 'spring board.

as for the girls; their instincts make them team up with the stronger party, which means they have to push you down as well to be in good earth at the top of the ladder.

dont worry though, the first 3-4 years of high school is the worst, especially when you reach college, it will get better; but it starts already when you choose a direction, if you choose to go technical/science, as most of the kids who choose that are less social caring, and the ones putting you down usually go towards economic/art classes. (at least, that's my experience)



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28 Jul 2011, 4:45 am

That age is the absolute worst for ignorance and general cattiness. All I can say is...it gets better! You are probably ten times more mature than them, and also better academically. When high school comes around, all of those people will likely be separated into trades/workplace classes, leaving you to study with wiser students who will have more respect for you.


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29 Jul 2011, 12:34 pm

izzeme wrote:
. . . especially when you reach college, it will get better . . .

That was not my experience when I attended a large state university way back in 1982 and lived in the dorm. There was even some physical bullying as if young males were jockeying for pecking order. All in all, college was a very mixed bag.

I even wrote a brief essay recommending "Tight, defensive boxing to a draw. One Week." http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt134616.html

Only works against people you're own size. Almost prefer a draw because you're not trying to embarrass or humiliate someone you're likely to see again.

And please don't take a bunch of blows to the head during training because all that stuff about post-concussion syndrome and cumulative trauma to the head is largely true. And just like football helmuts don't really protect, presumably neither does boxing headgear.

This gives an added baseline of confidence. You're hoping you don't need to use it.

And then, consider being a low-key leader.

For example, maybe make one or two phone calls about people in the area who give billiard lessons and once you get a price, ask some people on your dorm floor if they'd be interested. And people might say yes, they might say no. Since you haven't invested a whole lot, you're less likely to be hurt if a person says no.

Or, if there's an interesting guest lecturer coming up in a couple of days, ask some dormmates if they'd like to go.

Or, if there's an interesting subject in science, history, philosophy, ask people what they think. The person or group might talk about it and then abruptly move on to another topic. Just accept that duration for what it is. Or, they might not even respond to that initial question, accept that, too.

Social interaction has a large amount of random flux, as I'm sure you well know. Even when we add social skills, as we all can. Maybe it's still two-thirds a thread of a social interaction that can be followed, and one-third random flux, and in zen-like fashion, that's okay. :D