Whats the point of getting a diagnosis
A diagnosis could lead to government benefits (I know, they can be denied).
It can lead to accommodations at work (I know, some places may get even more hostile if they know you have a disability).
But a sanctified piece of paper could be of service if you feel you've been wronged. It's considered "proof" that you're part of a minority group.
goldfish21
Veteran
Joined: 17 Feb 2013
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 22,612
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
It can lead to accommodations at work (I know, some places may get even more hostile if they know you have a disability).
But a sanctified piece of paper could be of service if you feel you've been wronged. It's considered "proof" that you're part of a minority group.
Which is also of some value to autistics, seeing as one common potential trait/symptom is only accepting formal credentialed people as sources of valid information. This is why so many here have difficulty grasping that I am indeed on the spectrum despite not seeking a formal diagnosis. I've been criticised for nearly a decade for not seeking a formal diagnosis before embarking on my self treatment journey.. sorry folks, I was a wee bit busy figuring out how to save my own life via treatments to stop and plan out a specific wrongplanet forum approved process of waiting for a professional diagnosis before taking matters into my own hands and applying what I learned to improve my overall health, ASD symptoms, EXTREMELY SEVERE suicidal mental state and so on.
_________________
No
auntblabby
Veteran
Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 115,245
Location: the island of defective toy santas
The_Face_of_Boo
Veteran
Joined: 16 Jun 2010
Age: 44
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 33,664
Location: Beirut, Lebanon.
| ! | magz wrote: |
| Some of the posts have been removed. Gentlemen, I remind you this is The Haven and The Haven Rules apply here. |
I didn't go through formal assessment that would grant me diagnosis as a document with a stamp but I did go through hours with a therapist experienced with ASD in women to sort out mental illness (to treat) from my neurological profile (to accommodate). Then I could learn to determine and adress my real needs so I could heal and function.
_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.
<not moderating PPR stuff concerning East Europe>
goldfish21
Veteran
Joined: 17 Feb 2013
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 22,612
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Why isn't it meaningful with the biological causes that have been discovered?
_________________
No
From both sides of the desk (as a nurse and a patient)...
Doctors can sometimes get their backs up when a patient (someone they consider to be relatively stupid) comes to them and says, " I think I have X." No matter that we have been living in this body and are capable of doing research, as well. We haven't been through 7+ years of formal training, so often our observations are discounted. To our detriment ( I knew something was wrong with me physically once, but the docs missed a cancer diagnosis ).
However, I went kicking and screaming into neurocognitive testing, and blammo ~> diagnosed.
I think if you want to know what's up with you, they resist. And if you don't want to know, or don't care to be diagnosed they slap one on you.
_________________
Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I hate you, it just means we disagree.
Neurocognitive exam in May 2019, diagnosed with ASD, Asperger's type in June 2019.
My experience is that the only one who really recognized what was going on for me was a clinical psychologist who specializes in autism in teens/adults. Others (psychiatrists, psychologists, therapists, et al) didn't understand what was happening for me and what it meant for my life. So they just made things worse (because they had nothing to offer that explained anything but their own shallow, rubber-stamp diagnostic services). That one clinical psychologist helped me understand for the first time why I am this way, that there is a way for me in this world, and that I just needed to learn what I needed to learn to get by in it as best I can. He did things like explaining NT social stuff for me. He even had a white board in his office and would draw diagrams for his autistic patients to help us understand. I used to take pics of his diagrams so I could review them during my work days dealing with my ridiculous NT coworkers. Very helpful.
However, he also wrote me some disability accomodation papers for work to try and help me keep the job I had at the time by sparing me from the stuff that was triggering autism stuff for me, and it was all denied by my employer (even though my employer was in the business supposedly of helping people with various kinds of disabilities). So no real help there.
I'm also one of the "vast middle" of folks who aren't well off or "high functioning" enough (in the greater NT world) to be able to make my own way, but who are also not "low functioning" enough to qualify for disability. This happens to a lot of people - not just autistics, of course. People with mental health struggles, physical medical struggles, and so on who are also in the "vast middle" just do without or pay huge bills for what others get "free"/"low cost" through insurance.
In the end, though, I'm glad I did get the diagnosis as it cleared up some stuff for me. However, if I hadn't gotten it, I still would have begun figuring it out, or just understood myself as one of the people who are just "different". Or, as in the "old" days when being a "nerd" or "geek" was still considered a "bad" thing (instead of the "cool" thing it's supposed to be now for popular people), everyone just tagged me as "nerd"/"geek" (including myself).
_________________
Diagnosed ASD 2011
However, he also wrote me some disability accomodation papers for work to try and help me keep the job I had at the time by sparing me from the stuff that was triggering autism stuff for me, and it was all denied by my employer (even though my employer was in the business supposedly of helping people with various kinds of disabilities). So no real help there.
I'm also one of the "vast middle" of folks who aren't well off or "high functioning" enough (in the greater NT world) to be able to make my own way, but who are also not "low functioning" enough to qualify for disability. This happens to a lot of people - not just autistics, of course. People with mental health struggles, physical medical struggles, and so on who are also in the "vast middle" just do without or pay huge bills for what others get "free"/"low cost" through insurance.
In the end, though, I'm glad I did get the diagnosis as it cleared up some stuff for me. However, if I hadn't gotten it, I still would have begun figuring it out, or just understood myself as one of the people who are just "different". Or, as in the "old" days when being a "nerd" or "geek" was still considered a "bad" thing (instead of the "cool" thing it's supposed to be now for popular people), everyone just tagged me as "nerd"/"geek" (including myself).
This was a great post. It also gives us a Bill Of Rights, which is supposed to help protect us. Only it doesn't...
_________________
Disagreeing with you doesn't mean I hate you, it just means we disagree.
Neurocognitive exam in May 2019, diagnosed with ASD, Asperger's type in June 2019.
